Trangia Swedish Army Mess Kit

[Martyn]

Dont you mean Swedes? The Swiss are from somewhere else. :-D

You know, I never even noticed he got it wrong! It's all foreign anyway!

The most recent forum I added at BritishBlades was a "Scandinavian Blades" forum. I have to confess to being completely ignorant of thier geography - but I had to do a quick crash course, The Swedes, Lapps, Fins, Danes and Norwegians can be a bit fussy about nationality - I guess we all can.

 

[Roving Rich]

That trangia combo is a damn good find Martin. I had sussed it ages ago using an MSR whisperlite, but dismissed it thinking that it must melt the alley or something. WHY has it taken so long to become available!!!! It was the next logical step for a Trangia 15 years ago!
Trangias are great very efficient, but take too damn long. If I have time and resouces I cook on an open fire. But when frozen, its dark my companion is on the verge of hypothermia a hot drink fast is what is needed. (He bought a gas stove before our next outing) This is where the Trangia fails miserable - when your life depends on it. With these new conversions = top kit IMHO :biggthump
Rich :-D

 

[Viking]

Trangia 25 and 27 can be used with both multifuel and gas burner.

http://home.smelinkweb.com/trangia/trangiaeng/28-3.htm

http://www.optimus.se/products/nova/

 

[allenko]

Guys,
A coulpe of you have expressed concerns with using aluminium for cooking (AKA Swedish military tangria type stove) so I have been looking for the stainless steel version to no avail.

I'm not looking for an ordinary tangria stove, but the stainless steel military version (if there is such a thing) please let me know where I can source them

Thanks

 

[Adi007]

I'm well past caring about aluminium .... oooops! :roll: :shock: :-?

 

[Martyn]

That trangia combo is a damn good find Martin. I had sussed it ages ago using an MSR whisperlite, but dismissed it thinking that it must melt the alley or something. WHY has it taken so long to become available!!!! It was the next logical step for a Trangia 15 years ago!
Trangias are great very efficient, but take too damn long. If I have time and resouces I cook on an open fire. But when frozen, its dark my companion is on the verge of hypothermia a hot drink fast is what is needed. (He bought a gas stove before our next outing) This is where the Trangia fails miserable - when your life depends on it. With these new conversions = top kit IMHO :biggthump
Rich :-D

Absolutely. I was looking for a set of small pans and was looking at the trangia titanium pans when I cam accross the conversion. The cool thing, if you get the gas burner accessory too, and fit it out with Ti pots, you have a compact, lightweight, stable system, that will burn either gas, multifuel or meths depending on your needs. With the gas or multifuel options fitted, this otherwise "sedate" cookset must be amazing.

Even if you do the majority of cooking on your campfire, how nice to be able to brew up without leaving your sleeping bag, or maybe cook up some cous-cous to go with the fish you're ponassing? Or maybe this weekend you'll be tootling around in your landrover, and it'll be a lot more convenient and cheaper to syphon off a litre of diesel from your jerry can, than carry extra meths/gas.

Gourmet or what? One stove for every occasion.

That's the thing, I like me food. :-D

 

[Martyn]

1/2 pound of mince,a carrot an onion and three spuds in water , let it all reduce in the pot and hey presto a beautifull bowl of stew.

You managed all that on a meths burner? Good grief, you must have the patients of a saint. At 14 minutes to boil a cup of water, your stew must've made a nice breakfast. :-D

 

[Viking]

Guys,
A coulpe of you have expressed concerns with using aluminium for cooking (AKA Swedish military tangria type stove) so I have been looking for the stainless steel version to no avail.

I'm not looking for an ordinary tangria stove, but the stainless steel military version (if there is such a thing) please let me know where I can source them

Thanks

There is a stainless version. There is a small diffrence between them I can see if I can find a pic that shows the diffrence.

 

[allenko]

There is a stainless version. There is a small diffrence between them I can see if I can find a pic that shows the diffrence.

I would really appreciate it if you could.

Cheers, :-D

 

[Viking]

The diffrence is in the big pot, on the stainless it´s only one line on the aliminium it´s two lines

Stainless version model 40

Aliminium model 44

 

[Womble]

2 weekends ago I was demonstrating my Trangia (bought by my dad in the early '70s and passed on to me in the 90s) to my Scout Troop whilst on camp. I set it up in moments, lit it, put a full kettle on and told them why I liked it so much & took questions. At the end of these I took the boiling kettle off the stove and made myself a drink.

Time taken for talk and questions: roughly 5 minutes.

I'm really interested to know how it can take 14 mins to boil a cup of water on a Trangia!

 

[allenko]

The diffrence is in the big pot, on the stainless it´s only one line on the aliminium it´s two lines

Thanks very much

Where can I get one any ideas they have got to be better than the aluminium :!:

 

[Viking]

Don´t know where to get them over there.

 

[Martyn]

2 weekends ago I was demonstrating my Trangia (bought by my dad in the early '70s and passed on to me in the 90s) to my Scout Troop whilst on camp. I set it up in moments, lit it, put a full kettle on and told them why I liked it so much & took questions. At the end of these I took the boiling kettle off the stove and made myself a drink.

Time taken for talk and questions: roughly 5 minutes.

I'm really interested to know how it can take 14 mins to boil a cup of water on a Trangia!

Sorry, cant remeber exactly where I read it, but I'm sure one review said this. A quick google search did turn this uip though...

http://www.ultralight-hiking.com/stoves-trangia.html#anchor448340

/EDIT - aha, I think this was it....

http://www.thru-hiker.com/articles.asp?subcat=1&cid=37

 

[allenko]

Don´t know where to get them over there.

I'm not surprised what about over there on line link then i can import it over

 

[Viking]

Don´t know where to get them over there.

I'm not surprised what about over there on line link then i can import it over

Over here it´s pretty to get them. You can buy them in every surplus store.

It is still issued in the army =)

This company has a site in english http://www.activelifeequipment.com/

 

[Martyn]

Ahhh, but thay say the pots are aluminium. Where can we get the steel ones from?

 

[TAHAWK]

One thing to bear in mind here is that these kits are Aluminium and as such aluminium cookware has been like with Altziemers disease - curiously enough the mess kit does seem to be flooding the market at the moment and Im wondering why the Swedish are binning them and what is the replacement kit like?

Any one?

1. Aluminum and disease. False alarm cleared up some years ago.

2. Replacement. Read on another forum (No, &$#^@# can't recall which.) that self-warming rations ("MRE" = Meals, Ready to Eat) supplemented by solid fuel units are replacing these as simpler to use.

 

[Justin Time]

Gary
I've done a bit of looking around about this link with aluminium and Alzheimer's disease: Here's the opinion of the Alzheimer's society in the UK:
"There is circumstantial evidence linking this metal with Alzheimer's disease but no causal relationship has yet been proved. As evidence for other causes continues to grow, a possible link with aluminium seems increasingly unlikely."

Read more about the science behind this here:
Aluminium and Alzheimer's
So it looks like concerns about using aluminium may be unneccesary, but may still linger in our consciousness, perhaps like the recent worries about the MMR vaccine and autism which proved just to be bad science.

HTH

 

[Gary]

Thanks Justin that's good news will make sure I pass that info on during courses.

Equally good news to me especially as I also use the swedish army mess kit myself - I dont think you can beat it for bushcraft it has every application covered - billy can, frying pan, boiling pot, mug, plate, etc etc and can be used over the open fire or the stove. Just dont let it boil dry!

Stainless sets would be good - however you would need to weigh up the advantages and disadvantages of each. Now we know their safe the lightness of the Ali cookset would still get my vote.

And womble your right. I have experimented with the stoves boiling water etc in different climates and altitudes and while some proved slower than others they never failed me (unlike a petrol stove I once chucking into the Atlantic after carrying half way across the falklands only to have it die on its first use! :twisted: )

Used the set in Canada recently and at -20 c it worked a dream.

Trick with triangia's is to light it and get the water on then set up camp while it boils - once your Basha's up and your ready for a brew the water will be boiled! :-D And you can smuggly sit back and enjoy while your mates pump up their stoves and mess around.