time for a preppers section?
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'tis true, when I was an Emergency Planning Advisor we had a huge problem. Up to a certain point the emergency services, with the army if necessary, and the army of volunteers that appear, any disaster can be dealt with. If these fail or are overwhelmed or cannot respond because of radiation, for example, then we are in deep doo doos. The best thing to do then is to work on the margins of survival. A little extra water etc could make a difference.
I was amazed when I read up on the subject how some people seem to walk through disasters. An account of a survivor of the Great Kanto Earthquake in Japan illustrates this. He apparently sauntered down towards the bridge where many perished in a fire then walked away passing the scene where more were to die and so on. Almost like a Buster Keaton film with the front of a building falling on him but an open window just happens to coincide with where he was standing.
I was amazed when I read up on the subject how some people seem to walk through disasters. An account of a survivor of the Great Kanto Earthquake in Japan illustrates this. He apparently sauntered down towards the bridge where many perished in a fire then walked away passing the scene where more were to die and so on. Almost like a Buster Keaton film with the front of a building falling on him but an open window just happens to coincide with where he was standing.
A very often overlooked item for preppers!
If the history is accurate, pre-public sewers, sanitation and food hygiene, thats not enough for even 1 person, should things really break down!
Errr -
No electrickery = no sewage pumped = backed-up drains PDQ . And who's going to waist water flushing (if they have it!) anyway?
I recently 'enjoyed' the experience of an outdoor Swedish compost loo - could be the way to go?
No electrickery = no sewage pumped = backed-up drains PDQ . And who's going to waist water flushing (if they have it!) anyway?
I recently 'enjoyed' the experience of an outdoor Swedish compost loo - could be the way to go?
It would go into overflows and into rivers and the sea, i would expect people to continue using toilets for a long time tbh, flushing with a bucket; esp in cities where most people dont have the option of a compost toilet
Drought is a possibility, but i dont think its very likley in the uk really (possible though, who knows what will happen to our changable climate)
Aye Up Scarfell,
I agree that people would continue to keep using toilets - but no electrickery = no sewage pumped and = no water pumped into houses. (Most houses have combi boilers and therefore no back-up h20 in cold or hot water tanks).
Granted there might be authority distributed H20 (until the bowsers get nicked again or the greedy take more than their fair share - again!) but the chances are that there would be a lot less H20 going down the drains than usual, so does the sewage even get to the sewage farm? And if it does how does it get from there to the sea?
On a different but associated aspect - a local coal merchant told me yesterday that soon the only place that he will be able get his supplies from is Scotland.
There is little doubt that domestic resilience to a Denial Of Services event (utilities not social media!) in the UK is nowhere near what it used to be when I were a lad
I agree that people would continue to keep using toilets - but no electrickery = no sewage pumped and = no water pumped into houses. (Most houses have combi boilers and therefore no back-up h20 in cold or hot water tanks).
Granted there might be authority distributed H20 (until the bowsers get nicked again or the greedy take more than their fair share - again!) but the chances are that there would be a lot less H20 going down the drains than usual, so does the sewage even get to the sewage farm? And if it does how does it get from there to the sea?
On a different but associated aspect - a local coal merchant told me yesterday that soon the only place that he will be able get his supplies from is Scotland.
There is little doubt that domestic resilience to a Denial Of Services event (utilities not social media!) in the UK is nowhere near what it used to be when I were a lad
When I was a kid we always kept enough water (when prepping for outages) to pour a bucketful into the toilet to flush if needed. Pumping sewage wasn't an issue as we had our own septic tank. Most of the males just went in the woods until the water was restored. The situation's a lot different if you live in town though.
Aye Up,
That made me laugh TeeDee
- but you mean that it wasn't worth a bump with Putin invading Ukraine; North Korea testing missiles; Iran testing missiles; China copying the Japanese in WW2 etc?
I hear that Derbyshire is a nuclear free zone - might be time to move?
That made me laugh TeeDee
- but you mean that it wasn't worth a bump with Putin invading Ukraine; North Korea testing missiles; Iran testing missiles; China copying the Japanese in WW2 etc?I hear that Derbyshire is a nuclear free zone - might be time to move?
well lets say the earth got 100-1000 years (till destruction), even back up by scientists if we dont change....
but prepping is not going to save us from this / these serious bad situation(s)
so I say no, no prepping section, but we CAN have a section of how to be a better man on this earth! But, not forgetting we all can become better beings, I dont think there is very much gain to make on this lovely forum (judging the nice people)
But maybe we can have a Perennial Philosophy section by devouted Bushcrafters
( Christian, Buddhist, Hinduist, Sufi etc) etc section overhere explaining the true self (ps nice read is the Perennial Philosophy by Aldous Huxley)
but prepping is not going to save us from this / these serious bad situation(s)
so I say no, no prepping section, but we CAN have a section of how to be a better man on this earth! But, not forgetting we all can become better beings, I dont think there is very much gain to make on this lovely forum (judging the nice people)
But maybe we can have a Perennial Philosophy section by devouted Bushcrafters
( Christian, Buddhist, Hinduist, Sufi etc) etc section overhere explaining the true self (ps nice read is the Perennial Philosophy by Aldous Huxley)well lets say the earth got 100-1000 years (till destruction), even back up by scientists if we dont change....
but prepping is not going to save us from this / these serious bad situation(s)
so I say no, no prepping section, but we CAN have a section of how to be a better man on this earth! But, not forgetting we all can become better beings, I dont think there is very much gain to make on this lovely forum (judging the nice people)
But maybe we can have a Perennial Philosophy section by devouted Bushcrafters
How awful and fortunately not allowed.
@boatman
The behaviour and ethics of most man is awful. We simply just have to referr to the news.
Some people just want really to change nothing and keep moving along the same groove, a dead alley the blind leading the blind.
Well I guess that is awefull.
God bless us all! Back to Godhead and we will be safe.
Peace upon us!
The behaviour and ethics of most man is awful. We simply just have to referr to the news.
Some people just want really to change nothing and keep moving along the same groove, a dead alley the blind leading the blind.
Well I guess that is awefull.
God bless us all! Back to Godhead and we will be safe.
Peace upon us!
and some people want to switch on to a bushcraft forum and learn about bushcraft not other people agendas
this place doesn't do politics or religion for very good reason