Timber garage bracing help?

[Alreetmiowdmuka]

Alreet.i'm hoping for some advice off the extremely resourceful folk of bcuk.
Cut a long story short I'm building a timber garage for a customer. This has been a bit of a design and build project and I've reached a stumbling block and can't figure out how too brace the door.the problem is that the customer wants an up/over door and I can't put gallows type bracing at the front.i hope the pics describe this better

The small diagonal braces in the opening corners need to be removed too accommodate the door this weakens the structure considerably..I have braced the roof and gables ends with plywood and formed a king post truss in the middle of the garage.whist this makes the structure for the rest of the garage very stable it does not stop the wobble at the opening end of the garage

Hope this makes sense.


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[mrcharly]

Put the bracing on the *outside* of the frame. Might take a bit of faff to make it look neat.

 

[dwardo]

Easy,

Tell them they want proper doors instead! Personally think an up and over would ruin that lovely structure.

 

[crosslandkelly]

Personally I don't think it needs anymore bracing, the sheet of ply in the gable above the door will give all the rigidity you need.

Oops, sorry, just reread the post. How about getting something like this made up, and fixing them to the inside of the frame. The large L bracket.

 

[Macaroon]

Easy,

Tell them they want proper doors instead! Personally think an up and over would ruin that lovely structure.

Over and under doors are the spawn of the devil! What a great way to spoil any building

 

[mountainm]

Over and under doors are the spawn of the devil! What a great way to spoil any building

It could still be a wooden door

 

[Macaroon]

It could still be a wooden door

My comment stands - but that's just my opinion, each to their own sez I .

 

[baggins]

looking good mate. how about some oak elbows grafted to the outside uprights? if you can find some 90 deg ones, they would do the job and look in keeping. saying that, trying to find them may prove quite tricky.

 

[Alreetmiowdmuka]

Keep em coming please it all helps


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[Alreetmiowdmuka]

Personally I don't think it needs anymore bracing, the sheet of ply in the gable above the door will give all the rigidity you need.

Oops, sorry, just reread the post. How about getting something like this made up, and fixing them to the inside of the frame. The large L bracket.

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Yep I thought that too I even covered the whole roof in ply too add sum stability n front end still has movement.i'm liking the the l bracket idea though.if I get two big ones n fix them in the top corners on the inside..going across the head and down the legs.could very well be the answer


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[Alreetmiowdmuka]

looking good mate. how about some oak elbows grafted to the outside uprights? if you can find some 90 deg ones, they would do the job and look in keeping. saying that, trying to find them may prove quite tricky.

Yeah it's not bad for some reclaimed railway sleepers is it.cheap n all really.just need sort the opening nightmare out.shabby chic!I think they call it


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[Alreetmiowdmuka]

Easy,

Tell them they want proper doors instead! Personally think an up and over would ruin that lovely structure.

Tried that mate.customer is always right if yer know what I mean


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[Fraxinus]

Two questions:
How is the post jointed to the door lintel/header?
How are the posts jointed to the dwarf brick wall?

Rob.

 

[Alreetmiowdmuka]

Two questions:
How is the post jointed to the door lintel/header?
How are the posts jointed to the dwarf brick wall?

Rob.

The head is half lapped on too one side of 10"x6" post this has been fixed with 2 x 9" couch screws.the head beam that runs down the side is fixed to the same post half lapped on n couch screwed together..the slab was already in place when I started the job so I screwed wallplate straps too this and fixed my uprights off them.(would have preferred too concrete them in) the 4x2 walls that infill between the sleepers are also fixed down too the dwarf wall.


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[Alreetmiowdmuka]

Like this mate

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[dewi]

Are you trying to stop sideways movement around the doorway?

 

[Alreetmiowdmuka]

Yes


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[dewi]

Could you use a steel reinforcing bar hidden behind the doorway beam to tie the walls together and add strength?