Therapy?

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sodajoe

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I have been feeling a little down lately about the state of the environment and global warming but after reading a few post by other members it had positive affect on me. It's nice to know there are like-minded people out there who care about the environment and the natural world. I would even say it's therapeutic. That's all I have to say really. Thanks :)
 
BorderReiver said:
No matter how bad it gets,the planet will still be here and supporting life long after humans are extinct. :D

Or look what happened to Mars............

The thought of the vastness of Siberia always gets me in a better mood. And hopefully we will not destroy too much more before what is described here happens: http://www.dieoff.org/

I wish I was born in a hundred years. Or 7000 years ago.........

Torjus Gaaren
 
BorderReiver said:
No matter how bad it gets,the planet will still be here and supporting life long after humans are extinct. :D

Thats a positive though :D . sometimes I'm not that optomistic, but it's nice to know there are people out there who do actually care about this planet we inhabit.

The more the better!
 
The future of the earth is dependant on it's internal radioactivity, and the size of the sun i think. basically it's game over when the sun becomes a red giant, but it seems more likely that radioactivity (the main internal energy source of the earth except for some left over from the formation of the solar system) will die down first. The sun is only half way through it's life. I don't think mars was very internally radioactive, and it has a smaller mass so lost the majority of it's atmosphere relatively easily.

as global warming goes, you can think of it as the response of the earth in relieving an irritation, if you are so inclined as to consider james lovelock's gaia theory, whereby the earth is seen as one living system, anyway.

i think the best way to be positive about the future of mankind it is to say, right, we have two possible prosperous futures, and one negative view of it. the positive view is that we will either prevent a huge and unnatural warming of the earth with a mixture of will power, voting, and science, or on the other hand we survive the global warming -->ice age-->???interglacial period? cycle, with, again, will power and science (and of course, more morbidly perhaps, a reduced and more managable population). when in the sh*t, humans tend to group together, and pull amazing things out of the bag, so who knows what we could come up with in such a scenario as near mass extinction?

but despite that, all you really have to do to remain happy about our predicament is to try to live within your means, and according to your own morals, with respect (not just tolerance, an over-used word IMO) for others. in that way you are able to be as flexible about your lifestyle as needs be, and not begrudge it.

it has often got me down too, but i'm happier about it now :)
 
haven't read it yet and i will do, but ironically, it's actually siberia's frosty tundra that is more of a threat (with current knowledge, though not much is known about how quickly the ice caps can break up, it may be much more quickly than previously thought possible) to rising sea level and decreasing reflectivity (albedo) of the earth's surface, since apparently it melts more quickly... this is still up in the air though i think.
 
the article is interesting, it kind of highlights the fact that bushcraft succeeds in being able to transform parts of britain from barren wasteland to lush landscape, in the eyes of normal people. we don't need expeditions to make it worthwhile to learn all these techniques of survival or anything else.
 
I could easily find myself getting depressed when I see the amount of thoughtless ruination people indulge in. It seems like theres too much going on for individuals to make any difference. For myself, what stops me getting reallly down is to think, "It's better to do a little than to do nothing". So whether it's picking up litter when I'm out walking, or trying harder with the recycling, it helps to balance things a little for me.
 
Like most problems, I believe that if they are shared then they lose a lot of their weight. It is too easy sometimes to think that I'm the only one who worries about the environment. But as I said, reading the stuff on this site and knowing there are people out there working to make a difference has certainly helped me. :)
 
Damn it! I got the wrong kind of "Therapy?"
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But, as you say, this kind of therapy is very refreshing and uplifting! I spend a lot of time with kids and spend quite a lot of time trying to educate and enlighten them as to the joys outside, away from the XBox, and show them that they need to treat things with a bit of respect!

Here is, indeed, a salvation where other folk of a like minded appreciation for all that is good in the world... music included!
 
Sodajoe, people feel almost obliged to empathise with others' concerns and to worry about big problems, but sympathy and empathy and not very valuable currencies. They don't cure diseases or end famines. You'll be better off if you can do your bit and then make bad jokes about global warming improving the climate. You'll be happier and still helping just as much.
 
philaw said:
Sodajoe, people feel almost obliged to empathise with others' concerns and to worry about big problems, but sympathy and empathy and not very valuable currencies. They don't cure diseases or end famines. You'll be better off if you can do your bit and then make bad jokes about global warming improving the climate. You'll be happier and still helping just as much.


No one should feel obliged to empathise with anyone, rather I beleive that it is human nature to do so. And I disagree profoundly with your statement of fact that empathy is not a valuable currency. I counsel children and this would not be possible without empathy. I would argue there is not enough empathy and understanding in the world. Perhaps if there was more consideration to other people then the world wouldn't be the mess that it is in at the moment.

I also don't understand your remarks about bad jokes on global warming. I didn't make any jokes.

Still, you're entitled to your opinions and I'll respect that.
 

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