I think the Police Force should be given some credit in judging the item and situation in a correct way.
The ambiguity of knife law
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As am I, every time this subject arises...........a weary shake of the head at some of what get's posted.I’d imagine the mods are quietly groaning to themselves.
It’s not a flick knife, flick knives and gravity knives fall into a separate and category.This guy’s bandying around terms and misinformation that muddles things for those who aren’t familiar with the actual law. And according to post #9, it’s because the forum is a bit quiet.
All this thread is, is fodder for the anti knife lobby.
Yep
But should you not be part of the (hypothetical) "anti knife lobby"?
Engage in constructive discussions?
Engage in constructive discussions?
This whole thread is nonsense.
Explain 'Anti knife lobby' without sounding nonsensical. As there is no such think as one.
Explain 'Anti knife lobby' without sounding nonsensical. As there is no such think as one.
Constructive discussions, eh?
How about what amounts to legal opinions, and sometimes even advice, from those not in the least qualified to offer such?
There are many who post on this topic, here and elsewhere on the interweb, who patently just don't have any grasp of the law, not only as it is written but perhaps more importantly how it will be interpreted and enforced by
Police officers, prosecutors and magistrates et.al. It has nothing to do with what's right, or fair, or sensible (more's the pity) but a bunch of people with the power to do so have decided that the current laws are the way to deal with our present problems and they're going to carry on with this course of action and steamroller anybody who gets caught up on the wrong side of things, right or wrong.
The time to do something about all this is not when you find yourself embroiled in a bad situation but at a much deeper level of involvement with your politicians and lawmakers, but I fear that in the current climate one would be using a broken paddle against a very strong tide.
I hope you understand I mean that the 'knife users' ( pro-knife people?) should try to engage in a constructive discussion with the State?
(not a c. d. on this forum, that is not what I mean)
Do you know that it is done in many countries, successfully?
I can give you many examples where laws were changed because the 'users' and their organisations felt a change was needed.
The result can be a permit system vs a total ban. Or bans can be overturned and a permit system introduced.
(not a c. d. on this forum, that is not what I mean)
Do you know that it is done in many countries, successfully?
I can give you many examples where laws were changed because the 'users' and their organisations felt a change was needed.
The result can be a permit system vs a total ban. Or bans can be overturned and a permit system introduced.
I didn't groan at first, but I am now.
Unless someone is involved in Law Enforcement or Prosecution, or has been through this process in the UK, it probably isn't worth posting to this thread. I am always interested to hear how the system actually behaves, but reading a lot of debate from people who are giving opinion based on their own reading, or third hand stories, or...well, anything other than first hand experience, gets wearing after a while. Clearly I am not alone in thinking this!
Without that first hand experience, your opinion isn't going to add much to all that has already been posted.
That was what was good about threads in the Members area of Edge Matters, there were people posting who were legally trained, involved in the law, and/or who were in discussions with the law makers.
Unless someone is involved in Law Enforcement or Prosecution, or has been through this process in the UK, it probably isn't worth posting to this thread. I am always interested to hear how the system actually behaves, but reading a lot of debate from people who are giving opinion based on their own reading, or third hand stories, or...well, anything other than first hand experience, gets wearing after a while. Clearly I am not alone in thinking this!
Without that first hand experience, your opinion isn't going to add much to all that has already been posted.
That was what was good about threads in the Members area of Edge Matters, there were people posting who were legally trained, involved in the law, and/or who were in discussions with the law makers.
I didn't groan at first, but I am now.
Unless someone is involved in Law Enforcement or Prosecution, or has been through this process in the UK, it probably isn't worth posting to this thread. I am always interested to hear how the system actually behaves, but reading a lot of debate from people who are giving opinion based on their own reading, or third hand stories, or...well, anything other than first hand experience, gets wearing after a while. Clearly I am not alone in thinking this!
Without that first hand experience, your opinion isn't going to add much to all that has already been posted.
That was what was good about threads in the Members area of Edge Matters, there were people posting who were legally trained, involved in the law, and/or who were in discussions with the law makers.
Not posting unless you have first hand knowledge would reduce worldwide forum posts by about 75%
Thats the last thing a struggling platform needs! Think of the children!!!
Flick knife im not sure about, but this is an expert. The stanleys a switch blade a switchblade.
Oh, and all the joking about protractors, circles, lines etc...
just read your signature, and can't help laughing........it's so apt
Nope that stanley has a spring assisted opening handle. Blade operation is a seperate thing altogether
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BMAF6BAgMEAg&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov
Well, I’ll certainly take the opinion of an American kid who mainly posts on YouTube about Pokemon as my new legal advisor on UK knife law. Brilliantly done, and kudos for playing this whole forum into the hands of anyone anti knife by posting a link to an automatic stiletto knife on a UK bushcraft forum. This is a troll thread, and you know it. What you’re trying to achieve, I have no idea, but you’re clearly either stupid or hard of learning in some way, so let me educate you. It’s weird PC, you normally post good stuff, what’s up, your name in a thread usually means I’ll have a read?
UK knife law: Criminal Justice Act 1988 latest revision.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpg...s-with-blades-or-points-and-offensive-weapons
Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act 1959. Describes the exact mechanism of flick, auto, gravity knives.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/7-8/37/section/1
The struggle for people to find facts in a sea of opinion is a problem these days.
I am more a fan of quality than quantity. If this whole subject was new I might not think it so much a waste of time for people with no experience to be posting, but the fact is that there have been a ton of posts made even on just this forum and very few of them are really useful to anyone reading and looking for facts.
Also, if I were not tasked with keeping an eye on subjects that can become contentious I probably would be less bothered about seeing threads start down the same well trodden paths.
Ill be honest I thought it was a girl. Weirdly, he starts off with a high pitch voice shooting crossbows and making his own knife (which i find quite impressive for his age) and ends up with a deep voice playing pokemonn.
I am being side tracked by the switchblade argument. The knife and blade operation is still illegal to carry, front ejecting lock mechanism.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-...50&gclid=CLGHxdWx998CFQ2UhQodrWYODQ&gclsrc=ds
This knife is illegal, and without a tracable alibi in a direct need for it, ie not in the pub, you would be in jail if you where caught twice.
I think i will go and buy one of thoes spring stanley knives, and if you can keep the blade open with an automaticunfolding to a lock position i shall have to inform the police.
I am being side tracked by the switchblade argument. The knife and blade operation is still illegal to carry, front ejecting lock mechanism.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-...50&gclid=CLGHxdWx998CFQ2UhQodrWYODQ&gclsrc=ds
This knife is illegal, and without a tracable alibi in a direct need for it, ie not in the pub, you would be in jail if you where caught twice.
I think i will go and buy one of thoes spring stanley knives, and if you can keep the blade open with an automaticunfolding to a lock position i shall have to inform the police.
The same subject being discussed over and now too!!!!
Right, you are definitely an agent of Facebook trying to shut forums down from the inside
I am of course just messing about and I get exactly where you are coming from fear not
