in post #456 i made a mentioning of the fact that Mors Kochanski stated in a video on youtube that plastic mirrors have a poor resolution compared to glass mirrors (a fact i wasn't aware of when assembling the kit i was referring to....) which means the latter are ways more efficient, especially at longer range....
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sorry for going slightly off topic....
i stopped counting how many times someone tried to use "ammerrricca" as a selling argument for their junk -especially in the US' puppet state south korea... - or someone over here asks me if i'm from "ammerricca" even though this part of the world was known as (central)America for 250 years before some folks chucked a bunch of boxes of tea into boston harbor while framing the natives...
the term "jerrycan" goes back to the desert campaign of world war two: the British kept captured german fuel containers whenever they could lay their hands on them as they were superior to their own -- their nickname for the germans was "Jerry"....
On similar note, everyone be carefull of chinese optics, a lot use plastic, I got a 10x zoom lens adapter for phone, it was only £5, but awfull, ive got a 10x42 Hawke Naturetrek monocular, brilliant, really crisp, so much better light transmission, probably similar reason, better glass.
Exactly, brilliant engineering, some of the WW2 german POWs here in somerset were used on the farms as labourers and formed up friendships with local villagers, they were very adpt at fixing up farm vehicles but were scathing of our metalwork, some of them were just poor city lads who got conscripted and who enjoyed the rural country farm life here and a lot stayed here after the war , even married locals, I think somerset rural farm machinery benifitted from it.
Also random off topic, apparently in UK in WW2, americans staying here complained that the british pubs were allowing black GIs in to the same pubs as white american soldiers, and that they wanted them segragated, and so they made the pubs Blacks only , and the british happily drank with black GIs, leaving white GIs no where to go, or something like that, history is odd like that
Re the German POW’s yes a number did stay on in the UK. There were two German owned businesses where I used to live. The original proviso being they were only allowed in Horticultural or Agricultural activities. Our local main John Deere tractor agent was an ex POW having been captured in 1945. The other was an ex German paratrooper and he set up a successful Horticultural business which his Grandson now runs.
The Chequer Board, which if you care to read and in particular if you are a Nevil Shute fan, tells a story within this book about an American Negro soldier shipped to England in 1944 and the pub segregation saga.
Me, I’m a huge Nevil Shute fan and for those who haven’t read or come across his books the two most famous stories which were turned into films are; A Town Like Alice and No Highway.
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Or Beyond the Black Stump
Or Whatever Happened to The Corbett’s.
All great ‘stories’ and even today some have a little bit of foretelling eh?
Trustee from the Toolroom is on my list to re-read quite probably for the third or fourth time. I have two copies, I know I do but as usual I can’t find either so I may have to Abe book or ebay for a third helping!
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My father used to watch A Town Like Alice all the time on TV, parents were both huge chute fans, could be where I got the anecdotes from, but there were definitely POWs in agriculture near Bridgwater during WW2. I find the above, like the Xmas day football match during the trenches, fasicinating parts of history.
After an extensive search on Netflix i gave up and the wife found it on prime free to watch,
We both watched it and found it to be a really good watch, i spent half of it shouting, Follow the river!.
Wife paused it and wouldn't turn it back on till i was quiet.
Regarding the tin, i think i'd put a magnesium block or slivers in there with ferro rod and the other usual suspects.
We both watched it and found it to be a really good watch, i spent half of it shouting, Follow the river!.
Wife paused it and wouldn't turn it back on till i was quiet.
Regarding the tin, i think i'd put a magnesium block or slivers in there with ferro rod and the other usual suspects.
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A bit of a trip down memory lane as I has one of the Survival Aids tins from the shop in Euston when getting something meant paper catalogues or travel. Lord knows what happened to it but lived next to the orange bivi bag in a rucksack for years and years. I remember using the matches and Puritabs and maybe the small hacksaw blades.
In the spirit of the mighty tin I read the threads and watched the YouTube vids and thought I'd throw my hat into the ring with my current take.
I found a tin from my kids Scout days and gathered what I thought useful. I added things that over the years I've ran out of ( firelighters), needed (painkillers) loaned (Whistle, knife) or used to fix things (superglue, duct tape).
The tin is hinged so it has a handle for dipping or using on a fire. The plastic box is an old battery case and keeps the bits from pinging over the heather. Cutting tools are a CRKT FB, a folding saw/scalpel with black plastic handle.
The folding Swiss Tech pliers has wire cutters, 4 screwdrivers. Lighter is wrapped in waxed jute which can be peeled off and fed into the flame. The clever SOG tool has Ferro rod, scraper, whistle, glass punch and wire wool fire starter.
Cordage is white nylon string, black thread, 10M floss and spool of wire.
2 cocadamol, 2 elastoplast for blisters and pain.
Last bits are fresnel lens, Cyflect panel, wires aw, tweezers, puritabs, Photon light, safety pins, tinfoil, paper, pencil wrapped in duct tape, superglue ( does it burn well as a firestarter?) Tinderquik tab, can opener, rubber bands, NATO compass (I reckon all that's left of my teenage tin!), zip tie and a small silica packet for moisture.
Planning to seal it all with electrical tape and maybe vacuum seal it.
Might add some needles, some survival instructions and on the inside lid some luminous tape for nighttime.
Didn't bother with a fishing kit as I don't fish and would just starve trying.
In the spirit of the mighty tin I read the threads and watched the YouTube vids and thought I'd throw my hat into the ring with my current take.
I found a tin from my kids Scout days and gathered what I thought useful. I added things that over the years I've ran out of ( firelighters), needed (painkillers) loaned (Whistle, knife) or used to fix things (superglue, duct tape).
The tin is hinged so it has a handle for dipping or using on a fire. The plastic box is an old battery case and keeps the bits from pinging over the heather. Cutting tools are a CRKT FB, a folding saw/scalpel with black plastic handle.
The folding Swiss Tech pliers has wire cutters, 4 screwdrivers. Lighter is wrapped in waxed jute which can be peeled off and fed into the flame. The clever SOG tool has Ferro rod, scraper, whistle, glass punch and wire wool fire starter.
Cordage is white nylon string, black thread, 10M floss and spool of wire.
2 cocadamol, 2 elastoplast for blisters and pain.
Last bits are fresnel lens, Cyflect panel, wires aw, tweezers, puritabs, Photon light, safety pins, tinfoil, paper, pencil wrapped in duct tape, superglue ( does it burn well as a firestarter?) Tinderquik tab, can opener, rubber bands, NATO compass (I reckon all that's left of my teenage tin!), zip tie and a small silica packet for moisture.
Planning to seal it all with electrical tape and maybe vacuum seal it.
Might add some needles, some survival instructions and on the inside lid some luminous tape for nighttime.
Didn't bother with a fishing kit as I don't fish and would just starve trying.
I have a seperate fishing kit, but not in survival kit as not enough skill, and UK means protection more important than food. The ducttape i expect would be better tinder than the superglue...
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I carry a hand line with a selection of small hooks, lures and split weights. I'll chuck it out if I see a patch of water while I'm out and about. I've had catches in fresh and salt water with the kit.
While I doubt I'll ever need it for a survival situation, fishing is a hobby of mine and I'll always have a go!
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For some random reason I was thinking about this thread once more.
I caught 'The Edge' on TV once more and enjoying it once more - made my mind a fertile little garden of what if's and what would be super useful.
The container - Seems to be a bit of split on the container being either made of metal or something more contemporary - high impact plastic.
One may not be able to boil much water in a little baccy tin but boil it you can -little and often , and I guess having a serious case of the squitz because you took a chance on some suspect water would lead very quickly to going down fast.
Not sure how much of an advantage a plastic container would be.
Whilst I still think a Guyot bottle makes an ideal container for such treasures - its just too large - which then makes it not ideal - a tricked out baccy tin can be dropped in a pocket , pouch , top of a small backpack etc without a second thought - a Guyot shaped pouch is just too large , too bulky - too much of a higher probability it won't be carried as a standard pack it -n-forget piece of trouser lint.
I caught 'The Edge' on TV once more and enjoying it once more - made my mind a fertile little garden of what if's and what would be super useful.
The container - Seems to be a bit of split on the container being either made of metal or something more contemporary - high impact plastic.
One may not be able to boil much water in a little baccy tin but boil it you can -little and often , and I guess having a serious case of the squitz because you took a chance on some suspect water would lead very quickly to going down fast.
Not sure how much of an advantage a plastic container would be.
Whilst I still think a Guyot bottle makes an ideal container for such treasures - its just too large - which then makes it not ideal - a tricked out baccy tin can be dropped in a pocket , pouch , top of a small backpack etc without a second thought - a Guyot shaped pouch is just too large , too bulky - too much of a higher probability it won't be carried as a standard pack it -n-forget piece of trouser lint.
If its too big...you wont bring it...
a metal container, a lot of the time in the past its been to make charcloth, to polish for signalling mirror etc.
BUT
manmade tinders have improved, you could always boil water in foil, make a foil cup etc,
i would have thought potassium permangeante or water purifying tablets in a plastic bag of water might be better than trying to boil in a tin.
i think the main reason for tobacco tin, is what was available in the 80s...
i remember making mine in 1985, tobacco tins were plentifull, pelicases were nonexistant....and i dont remeber there being any altoids tin.....
i had the tin, i had a messkit sized, i had a pelicase, had a 1945 ammo pouch....
now i have it spread over small molle ammo pouches froma li express, to spread over belt, and for mino excursions its the 1945 pouch with just edc items...
www.youtube.com
These channels often review survival tin kits.....
a metal container, a lot of the time in the past its been to make charcloth, to polish for signalling mirror etc.
BUT
manmade tinders have improved, you could always boil water in foil, make a foil cup etc,
i would have thought potassium permangeante or water purifying tablets in a plastic bag of water might be better than trying to boil in a tin.
i think the main reason for tobacco tin, is what was available in the 80s...
i remember making mine in 1985, tobacco tins were plentifull, pelicases were nonexistant....and i dont remeber there being any altoids tin.....
i had the tin, i had a messkit sized, i had a pelicase, had a 1945 ammo pouch....
now i have it spread over small molle ammo pouches froma li express, to spread over belt, and for mino excursions its the 1945 pouch with just edc items...
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The Prepared Wanderer is a YouTube content creator and survival enthusiast known for his expertise in bushcraft, survival gear, and outdoor preparedness. His channel focuses on a variety of topics, including gear reviews, survival tips, bushcraft techniques, and advice on creating everyday carry...
www.youtube.com
These channels often review survival tin kits.....
If its too big...you wont bring it...
a metal container, a lot of the time in the past its been to make charcloth, to polish for signalling mirror etc.
BUT
manmade tinders have improved, you could always boil water in foil, make a foil cup etc,
i would have thought potassium permangeante or water purifying tablets in a plastic bag of water might be better than trying to boil in a tin.
i think the main reason for tobacco tin, is what was available in the 80s...
i remember making mine in 1985, tobacco tins were plentifull, pelicases were nonexistant....and i dont remeber there being any altoids tin.....
i had the tin, i had a messkit sized, i had a pelicase, had a 1945 ammo pouch....
now i have it spread over small molle ammo pouches froma li express, to spread over belt, and for mino excursions its the 1945 pouch with just edc items...
The Prepared Wanderer
The Prepared Wanderer is a YouTube content creator and survival enthusiast known for his expertise in bushcraft, survival gear, and outdoor preparedness. His channel focuses on a variety of topics, including gear reviews, survival tips, bushcraft techniques, and advice on creating everyday carry...
These channels often review survival tin kits.....
I agree to a point
I kinda wish there was a tightly fitting sheath for a tin that could provide a deep if narrow container - so the tin would sit inside it and it could be used as a small almost hip flask sized boiling container.
Did Britain copy the Jerry can pretty quickly or were ours a similar design already? The reason I ask is that I have a British one stamped WD (war department) which is the Jerry can as we know it today. I also have a WWII USA one with the screw in cap which is clearly not as sublime a design.sorry for going slightly off topic....
i stopped counting how many times someone tried to use "ammerrricca" as a selling argument for their junk -especially in the US' puppet state south korea... - or someone over here asks me if i'm from "ammerricca" even though this part of the world was known as (central)America for 250 years before some folks chucked a bunch of boxes of tea into boston harbor while framing the natives...
the term "jerrycan" goes back to the desert campaign of world war two: the British kept captured german fuel containers whenever they could lay their hands on them as they were superior to their own -- their nickname for the germans was "Jerry"....
Cheap hipflasks available every Christmas. Just suss out two different sizes, and cut one to be the outer....put a neat hole in one edge so that you can get a stick into it to work like a handle.
Somewhere I have a stash of cheap hipflasks....they were used to pass around sloe gin.
I 'think' they're in a box in the loft. If I come across them in my Summer clear out, I'll mind and offer.
Somewhere I have a stash of cheap hipflasks....they were used to pass around sloe gin.
I 'think' they're in a box in the loft. If I come across them in my Summer clear out, I'll mind and offer.
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