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We could just tell everyone their notes are now worth 10x as much. A fiver is now £50 and so forth. Or perhaps take your cash to the Post Office and they Sharpie in an extra zero.

Good idea - I like it !! Now , where is that German Wheel barrow of mine?
 
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To be honest I have not had the time. I will look as I found the resources post through a link sent to me....but it's not new news, even the BBC has reported links to diabetes and covid https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66054946.amp
Thanks, I came across that article and a few others. As far as I can tell, and maybe worth mentioning, there's no real evidence linking it to covid infections as such. It seems to be one of a few different theories.
 
Well a bit of a bump and moan. My elderly mum has been in hospital for several weeks with pneumonia and a bad lung infection that's required weeks of treatment.

When she was admitted there was a patient with flu and another with covid on her ward, luckily she didn't catch it then. However after moving wards another patient seems to have caught it and nothing meaningful was done to protected the other patients and now mum has caught it and is very poorly.

It seems strange to me, after all the fuss over covid, that hospitals don't do anything to stop elderly patients with lung problems from catching it. No limit on visitors, no mask wearing, hand washing and even with infected patients on a ward some staff were not wearing masks and patients still sharing equipment.

They also just assume you're not infections after 7 days.

I can see a more harmful strain doing a lot of damage in future.
 
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Thank you. It's not been a great experience at all and it seems if her Dr was willing to do a house call when asked she could have avoided the ambulance trip and five week stay.
I believe you mate believe me. I’ll leave it at that. Hope your Moms well and home soon.
 
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Well a bit of a bump and moan. My elderly mum has been in hospital for several weeks with pneumonia and a bad lung infection that's required weeks of treatment.

When she was admitted there was a patient with flu and another with covid on her ward, luckily she didn't catch it then. However after moving wards another patient seems to have caught it and nothing meaningful was done to protected the other patients and now mum has caught it and is very poorly.

It seems strange to me, after all the fuss over covid, that hospitals don't do anything to stop elderly patients with lung problems from catching it. No limit on visitors, no mask wearing, hand washing and even with infected patients on a ward some staff were not wearing masks and patients still sharing equipment.

They also just assume you're not infections after 7 days.

I can see a more harmful strain doing a lot of damage in future.

Maybe because with the initial panic over, the original proposition of treating COVID like one would seasonal flu was found, on reflection, to be generally appropriate.

This is not belittle the impact of COVID- as proper influenza- as opposed to bad cold- is a nasty disease, especially in the elderly or when a new strain arrives, I remember getting flu as a student and being unable to get out of bed for days, then it followed up with a nasty bout of bronchitis.....

The issue of shared things and hand-washing is significant, as things like norovirus are also nasty, and good cleanliness is the foundation of most disease avoidance.

That said...... many/most over 60's seem to get jabs for COVID and flu these days. I had a nasty little "cold" recently, was a pain to get over, suspect it was a COVID-y thing. Interestingly, my other half- who has had the COVID/Flu jabs- only got a mild version, whereas I had a week-long headache and was incredibly tired.

Fact is that there's lots of other things just as nasty as COVID about, with various spread routes, and the "infection nursing" of the 1930's until the 1990's was generally effective.... these days we forget the basics (hygeine, seperation/isolation) and rely on magic drugs, jabs and possible addition of flimsy paper masks. Which is great until the drugs don't work any more, or the immunisation rate drops (e.g. measles vaccination levels in UK now dropped low enough and case levels increased enough that WHO withdrew the UK "measles free" status recently).

I also remember the small cottage hospital in the place I grew up where they understood the concept of convalescence. All gone now as medicine seems to focus on high-tech whilst chucking out the low tech basics such as cleanliness, sleep, decent food and assistance to eat/drink. I am not anti high tech, but it shouldn't be brought in at the expense of the basics.

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Maybe because with the initial panic over, the original proposition of treating COVID like one would seasonal flu was found, on reflection, to be generally appropriate.

I can understand that with many people, and I've taken that approach for myself more or less from the start. However, for a ward full of elderly patients with serious lung infections I don't think it should be completely ignored.

It also doesn't make sense from a bed blocking perspective as it means people staying in for another 7 days or more. In my mums case she was underweight when she went in, lost 20% of her weight whilst in with pneumonia and has now lost another 10% with covid.

At least today she seems to be getting over the worst, just hoping she's not picked up yet another infection.
 
I can understand that with many people, and I've taken that approach for myself more or less from the start. However, for a ward full of elderly patients with serious lung infections I don't think it should be completely ignored.

It also doesn't make sense from a bed blocking perspective as it means people staying in for another 7 days or more. In my mums case she was underweight when she went in, lost 20% of her weight whilst in with pneumonia and has now lost another 10% with covid.

At least today she seems to be getting over the worst, just hoping she's not picked up yet another infection.

I don't disagree at all, which is why I highlighted the importance of basics to prevent ALL infections- and the value of convalescence.

We focused on COVID over the past few years but actually, I think we missed the wider issue: constant infection prevention. There's a lot of infections- lung infections but also things like norovirus and C. difficile that pose a serious risk to health of elderly/frail people,

Convalescence is also so incredibly important. Put someone (especially elderly/frail) who is just starting to get over a nasty infection into a room full of sick people. Have temperatiure, noise and light at levels not conducive to sleep or rest/relaxation. Serve food that is not very nutritious or palatable, and don't help frail patients eat it.

Then wonder why it takes so long for people to recover enough to get back home :rolleyes:

In a world where we thought about this, we'd have convalescent places at a smaller local level, with a decent view and deco, nutritious food and help to eat, seperation of actively infectious from recovering people, some privacy, darkness and quiet at night and some level of mental stimulation during the day. Oddly enough, rather like the cottage hospital in the rural town I grew up in (now closed to "improve" care by moving it to the large, busy regional city hospital).

When we looked for somewhere to move to, I did float the idea of bringing my MiL with us, but she wasn't having it, not wanting to move out of her house (which was not big enough for all of us). PIty really as she has since had a couple of falls and hospital stays, and having her nearby/adjacent would have allowed us to care more easily, But- that was her decision at the end of the day.

Hoping your mam gets out soon.

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We're quite lucky in that the Lanarkshire health boards have kept a few of the older small hospitals, and they are used as convalescence/respite care sites. When the main (university) hospital wards are too full, especially with frail elderly who just need a bit more time, they open up wards in the smaller ones and move patients there.
The smaller hospitals are in good sites, they were small local hospitals in the past and are mostly used as clinics now, but they also provide space for support groups too. They also give breathing room when something big hits the main hospitals, like covid.

I know the only reason that this can be funded is because Lanarkshire is in the central belt, even if we do have a lot of rural land and small villages around us, and has the population to support these places.
I think if we were entirely rural it just would not work.
I know that the Glasgow health board too has such hospitals, and there must be demands from some quarters to close them entirely but the reality is that keeping them operational, even if partially mothballed at times, has proven itself time and time again.
 
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I don´t what I have caught in december and beginning of this year. Been coughin my loungs out nearly.

First stint was almost whole of december and into beginning of january. Then it went over.
Next stint came early february and lasted until end of month. And still not 100% over.

When it was worst in february I had to sit in bed, as soon as I put my head down non-stop coughin started. And even sitting I had cough attacks every hour or so.
 
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There has been a similar lurgy doing the rounds here too. I thought I'd gone down with my first cold since I had been so unwell.....aye, well, that 'cold' lasted four weeks. The endless snot, and then the coughing started and would not stop.
Friends who tholed it said the same thing. Thankfully once it clears, it seems to really clear.
 
I don´t what I have caught in december and beginning of this year. Been coughin my loungs out nearly.

First stint was almost whole of december and into beginning of january. Then it went over.
Next stint came early february and lasted until end of month. And still not 100% over.

When it was worst in february I had to sit in bed, as soon as I put my head down non-stop coughin started. And even sitting I had cough attacks every hour or so.

Hope you fully recover soon mate.
 
I can understand that with many people, and I've taken that approach for myself more or less from the start. However, for a ward full of elderly patients with serious lung infections I don't think it should be completely ignored.

It also doesn't make sense from a bed blocking perspective as it means people staying in for another 7 days or more. In my mums case she was underweight when she went in, lost 20% of her weight whilst in with pneumonia and has now lost another 10% with covid.

At least today she seems to be getting over the worst, just hoping she's not picked up yet another infection.

Glad to hear she's getting over the worst, wishing her a speedy recovery.
 
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I don´t what I have caught in december and beginning of this year. Been coughin my loungs out nearly.
Did you get a test? I don't think the current strain of covid lasts very long, hospital assumes 7 days. Plenty of other things about though.

I'm hoping my cough and runny nose is hay fever....
 
And as of March 2026 I am still carrying FFP3 masks, hand gel and gloves , to consider they have become part of my EDC, and anyway for many that travel to the less advanced parts of abroad.

Further to because of my somewhat folk shy public demeanour I am predisposed to keeping my distance.

That said, I fully expect the Covid experience won't be the last we come to endure for to my notice we have sadly become a less caring nation
 

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