Sharp pointy thing No. 2

[Neiltoo]

My second attempt at a stock removal knife. Im much happier with this one, I managed to get the grind lines straight (sort of )

I spent more time with files and wet and dry than with the belt sander, obviously it took longer but I think the result is much better.

Now that im a bit more comfortable with the process I think that I will try a few different designs next.

Any comments or criticisms gladly recieved

 

[khimbar]

Second one?! Wow. Very nice.

 

[cgait]

For a second knife thats really nice looking........does it work well?

 

[wizard]

Very nice! The scales are beautiful too. I like!

 

[addyb]

Erm...begging your pardon Neiltoo, but what exactly is a stock removel knife? Sorry if that's a stupid question, but knives aren't really my bag, baby.

Adam

 

[Neiltoo]

Thanks for all the nice comments

For a second knife thats really nice looking........does it work well?

I dont know yet, it feels good in my hand but the oil on the scales is still drying

addyb

Stock removal just means that you start off with a piece of steel and you remove (as in carving, if it was wood) the steel with files , grinder etc until you have the blade shape and profile that you want . This is as opposed to forging where the heated steel is hammered into the shape without actually removing any steel.

At least I think that is the difference, Im very much a beginner at this so if anyone knows different Im quite happy to be corrected

 

[C_Claycomb]

Lovely job! Very nice bits of wood you have on there.

You might try making the handle more sculpted when viewed from the top, also rounding it a little more. Not a critisism! When I made my first...oh, several I tended to make the handle cross-section rectangular, with rounded corners. Having handled some that were more eliptical in section, no straight sides, I reckon they are more comfortable for carving work. Abrasive shop-roll, 1" wide, is great for rounding handles.

I think you deserve special praise for the photo Very nice too!!

Stock removal = knife made by removing stock (material) from a pre-ground flat bar.
As oposed to forged to shape. Even forged blades have an element of stock removal though.

 

[Neiltoo]

Lovely job! Very nice bits of wood you have on there.

You might try making the handle more sculpted when viewed from the top, also rounding it a little more. Not a critisism! When I made my first...oh, several I tended to make the handle cross-section rectangular, with rounded corners. Having handled some that were more eliptical in section, no straight sides, I reckon they are more comfortable for carving work. Abrasive shop-roll, 1" wide, is great for rounding handles.

I think you deserve special praise for the photo Very nice too!!

Stock removal = knife made by removing stock (material) from a pre-ground flat bar.
As oposed to forged to shape. Even forged blades have an element of stock removal though.

Thanks for the comments C_Claycomb. I must admit im not completely happy with the shape of the handle - i know its not quite right but im not sure why , I think I see what you mean by eliptical though.
Ive never actually owned a store bought knife so im trying to imagine what it should look and feel like from 2 dimensional photos.

 

[JM]

very nice!

 

[ggfh666]

This looks very professional to me.
Well done.

 

[running bare]

spot on bit of workmanship mate. did you temper the blade or was the stock bar already tempered?

 

[Neiltoo]

spot on bit of workmanship mate. did you temper the blade or was the stock bar already tempered?

Thanks for the compliment

Despite following detailed instructions im not sure that the blade is as hard as it should be

I normalized 3 times ( in 2 brick forge with maap torch ) then quenched in olive oil then tempered to 250 deg C. in kitchen oven ( 3 times )

I used a magnet to detect critical temp. so I am sure that it was hot enough.

Its all a bit of a black art as far as im concerned (I was thinking of buying a wizards hat to wear during the process)

 

[Daniel]

Fantastic knife, you must be really pleased with it. I know would be if I had made it.

I really like the scales by the way, what wood is it?

 

[Neiltoo]

Fantastic knife, you must be really pleased with it. I know would be if I had made it.

I really like the scales by the way, what wood is it?

Thanks Daniel,
The wood is Masur Birch, I got it from here http://thegoodstuffshop.dk/group.asp?group=3106

 

[bushtuckerman]

A beautiful knife Neiltoo.

How did you find the grinding? I want to grind a better edge on my spoon gouge (this is pretty tricky as you can imagine!), but don't want to ruin the files, as the knife used to be a drill bit so is pretty hard. I have ruined files with tempered metal before!

 

[Neiltoo]

A beautiful knife Neiltoo.

How did you find the grinding? I want to grind a better edge on my spoon gouge (this is pretty tricky as you can imagine!), but don't want to ruin the files, as the knife used to be a drill bit so is pretty hard. I have ruined files with tempered metal before!

Thankyou,
I did most of the heavy work before tempering, the blade is 3mm steel with a fairly narrow grind so I wasnt too worried about it distorting during heat treatment so I was able to get a fairly fine finish before it was tempered,

 

[running bare]

A beautiful knife Neiltoo.

How did you find the grinding? I want to grind a better edge on my spoon gouge (this is pretty tricky as you can imagine!), but don't want to ruin the files, as the knife used to be a drill bit so is pretty hard. I have ruined files with tempered metal before!

okey dokeyyyyy, now thats gotta be a tutorial or at least a few pics, howd ya get a spoon knife outta a drill bit????????

 

[bushtuckerman]

Aha, cheers. I obviously wasn't patient enough, i could have forged an edge on the knife before curving and tempering it! Maybe i'll try that next time.

 

[bushtuckerman]

heat it and whack it a few times .

i haven't got a drill bit and intermediate stages but this is the knife (I hope, not great at posting pics):

 

[Ogri the trog]

Neiltoo,
Nice knife, the photo seems to show some colouration of the blade, is it damascus or progressively heat treated?

Bushtuckerman,
What about anealing the blade, doing the filework to get your edge, then re Heat Treat back to full hardness?

ATB

Ogri the trog