quick glue question!

Wilderbeast

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Hi all, does arledite melt?? I am attaching brackets to my billy can and need to know if I need to use rivets or glue?! cheers, will
 

scottishwolf

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Use rivets mate, epoxy melts with heat. If you must use glue for a high heat application use JB Weld.

hope that helps dude, Davie
 

jojo

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Don't use the araldite. the molecular structure of the epoxy breaks down when it gets hot, and the glue fails.

And it does not need to get very hot. I remember gluing a Mahogany plank on a boat, only to realise something was wrong..:( ...I had to remove the whole thing off the boat. All I had to use was a hot air gun. Even a hot sun on a dark Mahogany deck can make the glue fail.
 

Draven

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As said, rivets. Just about all conventional glues will burn or melt. There are a few exceptions - when I was a mechanic we used something which seemed like an epoxy (in that there was a glue and a hardener) that form a stiff paste which withstood outer engine temps, but I don't know if it could handle an open flame, it was really more of a stopgap than a solution - no idea what it's called, either. Kinda looked a metallic grey, or dull silver? When it dried, it was hard as, too! The problem with a lot of things like that though, is that when exposed to heat a lot, they get very brittle.

Atb
Pete
 

Tadpole

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As said, rivets. Just about all conventional glues will burn or melt. There are a few exceptions - when I was a mechanic we used something which seemed like an epoxy (in that there was a glue and a hardener) that form a stiff paste which withstood outer engine temps, but I don't know if it could handle an open flame, it was really more of a stopgap than a solution - no idea what it's called, either. Kinda looked a metallic grey, or dull silver? When it dried, it was hard as, too! The problem with a lot of things like that though, is that when exposed to heat a lot, they get very brittle.

Atb
Pete
Sounds like Devcon liquid metal
Save up to temps of 120C
 

ForgeCorvus

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Rivets, first, last and always

I use Araldite for my arrows, I remove arrow heads from my broken shafts using a butane torch, I have done it using friction

If you want some small rivets, PM me your snail and I'll send you a few
 

ganstey

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As said, rivets. Just about all conventional glues will burn or melt. There are a few exceptions - when I was a mechanic we used something which seemed like an epoxy (in that there was a glue and a hardener) that form a stiff paste which withstood outer engine temps, but I don't know if it could handle an open flame, it was really more of a stopgap than a solution - no idea what it's called, either. Kinda looked a metallic grey, or dull silver? When it dried, it was hard as, too! The problem with a lot of things like that though, is that when exposed to heat a lot, they get very brittle.

Atb
Pete

Gun Gum? Never used it myself, but remember my brother mending a hole in his motorbike exhaust with it. No idea whether that was its real name, or if it still exists.

G
 

ForgeCorvus

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Gun Gum? Never used it myself, but remember my brother mending a hole in his motorbike exhaust with it. No idea whether that was its real name, or if it still exists.

G

Gun Gum is the name and you can still buy it

Its for fixing exhausts (as you've said) and therefore I wouldn't use it on a cooking pot (the gods only know whats in it)

If it was me (and it was last month) I'd stick with a mechanical fixing rather then glue (mind you if you can get your hands on a gas torch, brazing is good)
 

Draven

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I have used gun gum, but it wasn't what I was thinking of - can't stand that stuff! Can be used for patching exhausts as said, but it also gets pretty brittle and is just a temporary fix (one that people often use just to get their car through an MOT test). Definitely wouldn't use for this though. I recall someone mistakenly using it on a cylinder head gasket rather than a gasket sealer - fun times ;)

Atb
Pete
 

phaserrifle

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arledyte will fail under heat. I had to take wooden handles off a knife that I had expoxied to the knife. a quick application of a blowtorch soon got the damm things off.
 

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