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That’s a lot of assumptions for someone accusing me of making assumptions.

My point is simple, I do not have the time to do half the things I’d like to do. I’d love not to drive or rely on tech but I have to, for work.

If I didn’t work I’d love to have a nicer garden, grow more, make my own solar hot water system but I don’t have time.

I’ve wasted enough time for today. Wildgoose out.

Never accused you personaly, which if you had read with a calm, sensible demeanour you would have understood I was talking generaly ,not specifically about you. Chill out man!
 
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Speaking of solar heat, I've been trying to sort out a solar was extractor for processing our beeswax. Ready made ones seem very expensive (£200+) and even decent wood these days is a bit pricy. Anyway, I picked up a stainless steel A3 sized serving dish with a perforated tray for a couple quid and just popped it into a strong cardboard box with a sheet of glass as a lid. With this recent heat it's reached 90°C every day and processed a fair bit of wax.
 
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Sorry if i missed it,but which jackery did you go for.
The 240, I would have liked bigger, but funds did not allow if I wanted a solar panel too!
I've started saving again! Prices are rising fast tho, so I decided small was better than none
 

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Busy man syndrome.
At least some of us walk our talk, no car, and now no bike, no TV, no microwave among much else. My "work " sustains me, and gives me time for what I want to do.
It's called a work life balance.
Not easy in the beginning, but bliss when you attain it and are not one of the busy little mice scurrying about trying to fit everything in , that said, things often do get left for lack of time or energy. I just never worry about it. It's not perfect, but better than before I tried to fit into the rat race like everyone else. Downsizing my life was the best thing I ever did.
I go to bed and sleep well, knowing I have attained most of what I need to do, and tomorrow is another day and conciquently most deadlines are met those that arn't can wait another day. I'm not beholden to anyone for my life. I can think independently and if it doesn't fit mainstream conditioning I don't give a fig!
I live well most of the time, and when it gets a bit tight I'm resourceful enough to work around things.
And I understand the anxiety a lot of people are feeling right now. My life has been since the start of covid, about making sure I'm sorted rather than waiting for the day I could rip my mask off and go back to normal.
My new normal is good, and I'm happy, all except about my beloved bike but I needed to do what I needed to do to walk my talk on my beliefs.
My one bit of real tech, my phone, will go one day as will everyone else's and it will be missed, but I can live without if I need to, unlike many, I'm not glued to it like some I see, even while walking the dog, or pushing kids in pushchairs,driving, or crossing the road.
I've not recharged it on the mains for over a week now since I got the jackery, so my energy consumption just went down another notch.
Solar shower has done all my hot water needs this week, including washing clothes, and I'm not worrying about my bills quite as much as I should be. That may come back to bite but I shall just have to see.
There is always don't pay UK. :)
Didn’t need to bring gender into it either did we?

Enjoy your life and I’ll enjoy mine
 

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Speaking of solar heat, I've been trying to sort out a solar was extractor for processing our beeswax. Ready made ones seem very expensive (£200+) and even decent wood these days is a bit pricy. Anyway, I picked up a stainless steel A3 sized serving dish with a perforated tray for a couple quid and just popped it into a strong cardboard box with a sheet of glass as a lid. With this recent heat it's reached 90°C every day and processed a fair bit of wax.
That's a brilliant idea, I have some wax coming soon to process, I'll have to pinch that idea!(as long as the rain doesn't put paid to summer for too long!)
 

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Didn’t need to bring gender into it either did we?

Enjoy your life and I’ll enjoy mine
Of for goodness sake!!!! Would you rather I'd said busy woman syndrome?or even taken the snowflake route and been gender non specific?
I will, thank you for your blessing.
 
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Busy man syndrome.
At least some of us walk our talk, no car, and now no bike, no TV, no microwave among much else. My "work " sustains me, and gives me time for what I want to do.
It's called a work life balance.
Not easy in the beginning, but bliss when you attain it and are not one of the busy little mice scurrying about trying to fit everything in , that said, things often do get left for lack of time or energy. I just never worry about it. It's not perfect, but better than before I tried to fit into the rat race like everyone else. Downsizing my life was the best thing I ever did.
I go to bed and sleep well, knowing I have attained most of what I need to do, and tomorrow is another day and conciquently most deadlines are met those that arn't can wait another day. I'm not beholden to anyone for my life. I can think independently and if it doesn't fit mainstream conditioning I don't give a fig!
I live well most of the time, and when it gets a bit tight I'm resourceful enough to work around things.
And I understand the anxiety a lot of people are feeling right now. My life has been since the start of covid, about making sure I'm sorted rather than waiting for the day I could rip my mask off and go back to normal.
My new normal is good, and I'm happy, all except about my beloved bike but I needed to do what I needed to do to walk my talk on my beliefs.
My one bit of real tech, my phone, will go one day as will everyone else's and it will be missed, but I can live without if I need to, unlike many, I'm not glued to it like some I see, even while walking the dog, or pushing kids in pushchairs,driving, or crossing the road.
I've not recharged it on the mains for over a week now since I got the jackery, so my energy consumption just went down another notch.
Solar shower has done all my hot water needs this week, including washing clothes, and I'm not worrying about my bills quite as much as I should be. That may come back to bite but I shall just have to see.
There is always don't pay UK. :)
i still have a way to go as per a my previous comment

i am scoping out some suitable land for use for long-term buschcraft and self sustainability, that said i may have located few areas that need careful and further scouting before i could commit to using such land

there are many stuck in that rat race and feel there is no way out, well i can assure you there is a way out, albeit change must come from the heart then baby steps and you will get there

each step you will be proud of what you just achieved and that then gives motivation for the next step and will keep you focused in a positive manner

i know some may frown or may judge but i can teach folk how not to have to pay utility bills such as gas water and electricity as i have not paid any for over two [2] years by having my own meters installed [it is not as straight forward as swapping meters as there is a process to follow] and one [1] must be strong to stand up to thugs the utility companies get to write letters or knock on your door at first

there are two [2] playlists on youtube that will also help teach you if you need, but it must come from the heart and not the head

then if you have direct debits i can teach out to get money back from your bank by the direct debit indemnity clause for many things like council tax tv licence utility bills and much more, which is all lawful as you paid in error as they are non bona-fide genuine contracts as there is no obligation to pay

if the rich can do it so can we

as the three [3] musketeers motto

"one for all and all for one"

what is good for the goose is good for the gander

the law be equal to all and not for the few
 
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Didn’t need to bring gender into it either did we?

Enjoy your life and I’ll enjoy mine
this gender nonsense need to stop

if you got a stick your a male

if you do not have a stick you are a female

there can be no other genders

one [1] males sperm and one [1] females eggs to make babies

you cannot have one without the other even for a test tube baby
 
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That’s a lot of assumptions for someone accusing me of making assumptions.

My point is simple, I do not have the time to do half the things I’d like to do. I’d love not to drive or rely on tech but I have to, for work.

If I didn’t work I’d love to have a nicer garden, grow more, make my own solar hot water system but I don’t have time.

I’ve wasted enough time for today. Wildgoose out.
your name was non mentioned stated or stipulated etcetera thereby

if the cap fits wear it with pride and non prejudice

meaning

you made yourself sound guilty whether or not you are guilty

i am not the judge jury or executioner

just saying it as i see it
 
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i still have a way to go as per a my previous comment

i am scoping out some suitable land for use for long-term buschcraft and self sustainability, that said i may have located few areas that need careful and further scouting before i could commit to using such land

there are many stuck in that rat race and feel there is no way out, well i can assure you there is a way out, albeit change must come from the heart then baby steps and you will get there

each step you will be proud of what you just achieved and that then gives motivation for the next step and will keep you focused in a positive manner

i know some may frown or may judge but i can teach folk how not to have to pay utility bills such as gas water and electricity as i have not paid any for over two [2] years by having my own meters installed [it is not as straight forward as swapping meters as there is a process to follow] and one [1] must be strong to stand up to thugs the utility companies get to write letters or knock on your door at first

there are two [2] playlists on youtube that will also help teach you if you need, but it must come from the heart and not the head

then if you have direct debits i can teach out to get money back from your bank by the direct debit indemnity clause for many things like council tax tv licence utility bills and much more, which is all lawful as you paid in error as they are non bona-fide genuine contracts as there is no obligation to pay

if the rich can do it so can we

as the three [3] musketeers motto

"one for all and all for one"

what is good for the goose is good for the gander

the law be equal to all and not for the few
I'm not political in the sense of your quotes, but I do believe there is a better way, and becoming as independent of the system as possible is the way to go.
Ive built a haybox last week, ready for the winter. An old cool box, some ply for the bottom to stop it melting with a hot Dutch oven or other pan, you could use newspaper instead, and some home made hay. Cost £5 for the Coleman cool box from the charity shop. Took about 15 mins of my time if you count cutting the grass, and fitting the plyboard. It works too! Winner!
 

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I'm not political in the sense of your quotes, but I do believe there is a better way, and becoming as independent of the system as possible is the way to go.
Ive built a haybox last week, ready for the winter. An old cool box, some ply for the bottom to stop it melting with a hot Dutch oven or other pan, and some home made hay. Cost £5 for the Coleman cool box from the charity shop. It works too! Winner!
most are not either tbh and many are not ready for that stage on their journey as yet

true there are better ways forward and you are steaming ahead of many

who can resist a bargain that works for its new purpose

you may already know this as you can also wrap the dutch-oven in cloth as well as hay for insulation for cooking

the same process can be used for frozen and cold foods too

certain foods store well in containers buried in the ground with hay or straw and even sand i saw a few youtube videos about a year or two [2] ago
 
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To be honest, with covid on the horizon, I locked down a week early , after doing a massive shop, (2× 60 litre packs and a sholly. No idea how I got home by bus with that lot, but I did.
I could see what was coming and the only thing I could not get were medical masks, so I got a p95 workman's mask. I was the first in my town to wear a mask, and told to take it off and stop panicking several times!
I have the ability to look ahead and see what's coming, probably due to listening to my internal instincts, which have served me well, and avoided many a sticky situation in the past.
What I see coming ,may not be here tomorrow or next month, but a very wise old gentleman of native American extraction told me many things, gave me a timeline which he said could vary if people woke up, but he doubted they would untill it was too late to do much
He used noahs ark as an example.
I've often mused on his words, and so far, just about everything he said has come true in the last 25 years.
So I do feel that I've had a fantastic heads up, and by listening to him, and taking his advice, instead of scoffing, I'm fairly well sorted for a while at least. It's not been an easy road, and I've had many a set back, just as he said, but I do feel mentally prepared, and as physically prepared as I'm able.
Several things he said are constantly in my mind.

Other people's rubbish are your gold.

Be a hunter. Not just for food. But for unity with the earth and truth.

Learn your land.

Be aware that towards the end, many will try to rubbish what you do, as they are worried half to death, and will stick their heads in the sand, untill it's too late, then they will wail and want you to help them. Like noah!
It's up to you, be noah, it's too late for them.

It's everyone's responsibility unto 7 generations to look after the earth, but most have forgotten and see no further than their own life.

Father sky has you in his arms as does mother earth, do not disrespect them.

Be generous with your knowledge to those that listen, don't waste too much time on those who refuse to. It is their choice to have deaf ears.

There is much much more, but those are my main guidelines.
Other people's "junk" often has a second life with me.
I never return home without something other than shop bought stuff. Wood for the fire, a few berries, some nettles for cordage, food, depending on time of year etc.
I live my bushcraft every day.
My evenings are spent relaxing and thinking, which sets me up for the next days work or learning the land, making or mending or preserving my days foraging.
I'm often told I know so much, but realy I know very little compared to my wise old gentleman.
You do have to find the time to work at it, and sitting in front of a TV isn't it!
It's exhausting sometimes, trying to fit it all into a day, especially with no car, and everyone so busy busy busy they don't even look at you. No wonder loneliness is a great problem now.
But I know, in the end, what I have built will be my ark and I won't be drowning in panic. I won't say I don't ever worry, but humour helps a lot better than sniping. So smile and have a cuppa, then carry on carrying on building your ark, step by step, day by day. ( but make them big steps! Time is short.)
 

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Honestly, it's all gone a bit bonkers since last post... I think we're all on different doom spectrums...


@knowledge=gain

Rightly or wrongly, (you seem to suggest its the latter), your posts come across as pushing for not paying tax. You seem disinterested in money and by a couple of your previous posts which were about using businesses facilities for free, it seems you're not keen on paying your way in various scenarios... Now again, I'm sure I've got that completely wrong, and maybe I need to work on my interpretation, but perhaps it's food for thought for your wordings?

I'm not a fan of pushing money to HMRC in the manner that it being in my pocket makes life more fun...however when I wrecked my hand playing rugby, I was very happy to be able to get an xray, treatment, after treatment etc all "for free"... Whilst I'm well aware of money being wasted by the powers that be, the only ones who will ever end of paying big time for lack of tax is the average person...or us lot, so I think paying ones way is more than fair. I'm also happy to support our public services, many of whom work in horrid situations dealing with horrid people...frankly I'm surprised a lot of them don't just say "you know what, you lot deal with this **** yourself" which is what I feel when people actively avoid paying their dues!

Moving onto technology, many of you have more means than others... I don't have a garden, I don't have much exterior space, but I am to be criticised or made to feel a fool for embracing certain modern tech and not being anti computers and the such? I don't have an issue with any of you lot voluntarily living like our ancestors did...in fact, if I had a plot of wild land, I'd happily and voluntarily spend time being a wild bushman, but I'm limited in my options at this stage, limited to supermarket produce, water from a tap and such... Now forgive me if I'd rather keep a power tool and charge it via an electric socket to make one of those 1hr "5 minute jobs" limited to just the hour, rather than breaking out the old manual hand drill and spending the next week of my life faffing about putting up a shelf because in 10, 5, 2 years time when the grid goes pop I'll be there wishing I'd thrown away that worthless power tool...

Like I said, if or when the grid goes pop, and society collapses, everyone better hope they get on well with their neighbours because I can't see it being long before (as I said) someone bigger, uglier and nastier with a bigger stick comes to "borrow" what you have...
 
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To be honest, with covid on the horizon, I locked down a week early , after doing a massive shop, (2× 60 litre packs and a sholly. No idea how I got home by bus with that lot, but I did.
I could see what was coming and the only thing I could not get were medical masks, so I got a p95 workman's mask. I was the first in my town to wear a mask, and told to take it off and stop panicking several times!
I have the ability to look ahead and see what's coming, probably due to listening to my internal instincts, which have served me well, and avoided many a sticky situation in the past.
What I see coming ,may not be here tomorrow or next month, but a very wise old gentleman of native American extraction told me many things, gave me a timeline which he said could vary if people woke up, but he doubted they would untill it was too late to do much
He used noahs ark as an example.
I've often mused on his words, and so far, just about everything he said has come true in the last 25 years.
So I do feel that I've had a fantastic heads up, and by listening to him, and taking his advice, instead of scoffing, I'm fairly well sorted for a while at least. It's not been an easy road, and I've had many a set back, just as he said, but I do feel mentally prepared, and as physically prepared as I'm able.
Several things he said are constantly in my mind.

Other people's rubbish are your gold.

Be a hunter. Not just for food. But for unity with the earth and truth.

Learn your land.

Be aware that towards the end, many will try to rubbish what you do, as they are worried half to death, and will stick their heads in the sand, untill it's too late, then they will wail and want you to help them. Like noah!
It's up to you, be noah, it's too late for them.

It's everyone's responsibility unto 7 generations to look after the earth, but most have forgotten and see no further than their own life.

Father sky has you in his arms as does mother earth, do not disrespect them.

Be generous with your knowledge to those that listen, don't waste too much time on those who refuse to. It is their choice to have deaf ears.

There is much much more, but those are my main guidelines.
Other people's "junk" often has a second life with me.
I never return home without something other than shop bought stuff. Wood for the fire, a few berries, some nettles for cordage, food, depending on time of year etc.
I live my bushcraft every day.
My evenings are spent relaxing and thinking, which sets me up for the next days work or learning the land, making or mending or preserving my days foraging.
I'm often told I know so much, but realy I know very little compared to my wise old gentleman.
You do have to find the time to work at it, and sitting in front of a TV isn't it!
It's exhausting sometimes, trying to fit it all into a day, especially with no car, and everyone so busy busy busy they don't even look at you. No wonder loneliness is a great problem now.
But I know, in the end, what I have built will be my ark and I won't be drowning in panic. I won't say I don't ever worry, but humour helps a lot better than sniping. So smile and have a cuppa, then carry on carrying on building your ark, step by step, day by day. ( but make them big steps! Time is short.)
wow very very true indeed

i hear you sister of our earth

very very wise words

i too will never have enough knowledge to fill our forbears shoes

i often bring home things discarded on the kerb for landfill and make a new purpose for them

i need to look further into nettle-cordage, i have heard of yet not studied as yet, thank you for the reminder

loneliness is in the mindset and when one [1] is at one [1] with nature the loneliness subsides

just go into the woods and listen to the sounds of nature and you will not feel lonely, in fact you will start to feel at peace within yourself

standing in the woods or sitting in the woods on a fallen tree or a rock in bare feet will help ground you and help you find your inner-self

it is surprising how calm it makes you feel plus it is a great stress reliever

i speak from personal experience with a very stressful life that was chaotic to say the least to now a calm and peaceful life handling similar chaotic stressful situations with calmness and ease with no medication of any kind

remember the human body as a natural healing ability
 

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Honestly, it's all gone a bit bonkers since last post... I think we're all on different doom spectrums...


@knowledge=gain

Rightly or wrongly, (you seem to suggest its the latter), your posts come across as pushing for not paying tax. You seem disinterested in money and by a couple of your previous posts which were about using businesses facilities for free, it seems you're not keen on paying your way in various scenarios... Now again, I'm sure I've got that completely wrong, and maybe I need to work on my interpretation, but perhaps it's food for thought for your wordings?

I'm not a fan of pushing money to HMRC in the manner that it being in my pocket makes life more fun...however when I wrecked my hand playing rugby, I was very happy to be able to get an xray, treatment, after treatment etc all "for free"... Whilst I'm well aware of money being wasted by the powers that be, the only ones who will ever end of paying big time for lack of tax is the average person...or us lot, so I think paying ones way is more than fair. I'm also happy to support our public services, many of whom work in horrid situations dealing with horrid people...frankly I'm surprised a lot of them don't just say "you know what, you lot deal with this **** yourself" which is what I feel when people actively avoid paying their dues!

Moving onto technology, many of you have more means than others... I don't have a garden, I don't have much exterior space, but I am to be criticised or made to feel a fool for embracing certain modern tech and not being anti computers and the such? I don't have an issue with any of you lot voluntarily living like our ancestors did...in fact, if I had a plot of wild land, I'd happily and voluntarily spend time being a wild bushman, but I'm limited in my options at this stage, limited to supermarket produce, water from a tap and such... Now forgive me if I'd rather keep a power tool and charge it via an electric socket to make one of those 1hr "5 minute jobs" limited to just the hour, rather than breaking out the old manual hand drill and spending the next week of my life faffing about putting up a shelf because in 10, 5, 2 years time when the grid goes pop I'll be there wishing I'd thrown away that worthless power tool...

Like I said, if or when the grid goes pop, and society collapses, everyone better hope they get on well with their neighbours because I can't see it being long before (as I said) someone bugger, uglier and nastier with a bigger stick comes to "borrow" what you have...
i am suggesting that one researches the law an res-specific as there is no-obligation to pay for these so-called taxes as they are voluntary

i respect you and others have the means to pay if you so choose to volunteer those payments an that is fine by me

yet many folk are struggling and more so since first [1] quarter of twenty-twenty-two [2022] some have been made homeless many are families with children for non fault of their own because the WHO and Rothschilds lockstep twenty-ten [2010] Gates foundation and many more caused the scandemic of this century for their NWO see history does repeat itself see nineteen-eighteen [1918] spanish flu

thereby those folk worse off than us and there be quite a lot then why shouldn't they take advantage of the same loopholes as the rich for not paying taxes and to get fiat-currency back so they can eat and keep a roof over their heads

you see with fiat-currency also known as money which is not backed by any-thing as it be only a promissory-note bearing the words "promise to pay the bearer the sum of" whatever demon-in-nation the promissory-note declares i.e. £5.00 £10.00 and so on

thereby we all work for just our blood sweat and tears, it is the energy we use that is valuable and nothing can replace it, not diamonds or any other inanimate object

the monetary system was invented by the rothschilds to keep us as slave to their monitory debt system as is the banking system

a mortgage is actually a death pledge look into the french meaning for mort-gage

the all caps birth certificate name cannot be used as identification and is crown-copyright, it is fill of boxes and the four-corner rule says any-thing in boxes are not on the document now look on your birth certificate and a monetary promissory-note and prove me wrong

look on tomb-stones for the all caps name then look at the birth-certificate

look into the cestui-que-vie-act-1666 that came in under the red-flag of the great fire of london one [1] year after the great plague in 1665

1666 was the hottest year on record at the time and all the tudor houses in the area went up like tinder yet the fire was stopped long before it would of hit par-liar-ment and was allegedly started in the kings bakery of all places

the great fire of london made way for what is now known as the banking system
 

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Half a dozen argumentative or actually rude posts (and replies and quotes) removed.
If you do not, yourself, have the unlimited leisure time required to diplomatically reply to the essays of those with time on their hands, please don’t resort to name calling. There are only a couple of reasons to reply to someone or something you disagree with, to try to change the poster‘s mind, or to ensure that their voice isn’t the only one present. Neither is served by insults, clever or otherwise.
Thank you.
 
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Also.
This thread has been at its best when folk have shared ideas about how they prepare for difficult times.
It has gone down hill when folk start justifying their world vision.

The whole detour into taxation has not been helpful.

Remember…bush craft forum….not politics, not sovereign citizen, or end of days. We have been down a similar path with a thread on legal tender.
 
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