Post collapse survival strategies

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It would take a collapse on a global scale to create such a drastic fallout.

Not sure what I'd do

One idea would be to stockpile food & water for several weeks, with the aim to survive longer there is food in the city + 3/4 weeks. Be alot less people around by then.
 
Do you think, that being involved/interested in bushcraft and self sufficiency issues makes a person more aware of the dependancy we as a society have on services provided for us?

So when there are breaks in services, or natural disasters of whatever level, we are much more aware and are concerned and planning for this becomes a reasonable follow on from our interest in bushcraft...
 
I don't understand why people are getting upset at this thread , it is just a discussion yes & I think knowledge of Bushcraft stuff is relevant to anyones survival in most all situations. The more prepared you are with knowlledge the better you will cope with most things.

I've been a member of a well known Astronomy forum where this subject came up & even they had thoughts on the subject & a lot of them thought having knowledge of Bushcraft things ( no not just survival techniques, but flora & funa id & how to use an axe properly) were all good things to know.

You always learn things from all discussions is what my dad told me, so I'll now shut up & just listen .. hehe :)

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Not to mention 70 million people hunting and foraging in the uk its not going to last very long we would wipe ourselves out in a month,although thats probably the only way to save the planet,like the late Bill Hicks once said."The human race is just a virus with shoes"
 
Here's a nice quote from the equipped to survive website on the subject...

I am occasionally asked what we mean when we say that Equipped To Survive™ is "not a 'survivalist' site." A few decades ago, a survivalist was someone who was interested in the tools and methods used to survive in an emergency. More recently the term has been usurped by the popular media to describe individuals and groups that foresee a general collapse of our society via internal or external political forces, catastrophic environmental destruction, nuclear war, the apocalypse, and other such unlikely (though not impossible) holocausts.

Added notoriety has become associated with the term because among modern day survivalists there is often an element of extreme paranoia and anti-government hostility. There may also be elements of nationalism, racism, religious prejudice, or similar bigotry. Some act as individuals, others form or join groups with agendas of various extremity. Some pursue an active anti-social agenda and we then call them hate groups, or worse, terrorists. Any wonder the term "survivalist" has taken on a negative connotation?

You see, bushcraft and perhaps more importantly, BcUK is not a survivalist site. It's about enjoying nature and learning some of the skills our ancestors used to live harmoniously with it. No death clouds, black helicopters, bunkers, perimeters, food stockpiling, men in black or invasions from the outer hebrides. That is pure fantasy and has absolutely nothing to do with bushcraft.

On a less serious note, if apocalyptic survival fantasies ding your bell, then peak oil is not the best to indulge. You see there will be no mass death of the majority of the poipulation, which means you will be in competition with 70 million other survivalists, for every inch of arable land they can steal. Not good. It'll also be a slow onset crisis, which will probably result in martial law before it gets to full on disaster scale.

Nahhh, you see yer better survivalist fantasy involves a thinning of the population as well as a general collapse. Mass death is what you need, bird flu is much better. Then you would be free to get a few of yer mates together and go and take over some stately home, snag some automatic weapons and do yer thing, with no police or army to stop you. The only problem with that is bird flu is indiscriminate, it's just as likely to knock off Jhonny Rambo as anyone else.

My personal favorite is a zombie plague. Much better this, as you can use your wits to avoid getting bitten, while at the same time benefit from the mass death of most of the population. Only the swift and clever would survive, you can steal weapons and raid for food, and you have plenty of slow moving targets to shoot at ....and the threat persists, so you have to stay on yer toes. Great fun.

C'mon fellas, lets have a bit more imagination. I'm so bored with peak oil and bird flu, how about an alien invasion? We havent done that one yet and it has so much more scope.

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On a less serious note, if apocalyptic survival fantasies ding your bell, then peak oil is not the best to indulge. You see there will be no mass death of the majority of the poipulation, which means you will be in competition with 70 million other survivalists, for every inch of arable land they can steal. Not good. It'll also be a slow onset crisis, which will probably result in martial law before it gets to full on disaster scale.

And of course, one of the major effects of Peak Oil is likely to be a radical shift in the economic balance between human labour and mechanisation. Rather than stealing agricultural land, people are much more likely to end up working on it. If they've got any sense, anyway...

What I find really amusing is that the terrible catastrophe that's prompted all this is the unimaginable horror of having to pay over one whole pound for a litre of petrol. Get back to me when you're queuing for 3 days to pick up your weekly ration, or when there just isn't any petrol to be had at any price.

Believe it or not, effectively limitless personal mobility is not actually an essential prerequisite for civilisation.
 
End of the world planning was so much easier when I was growing up. Living within sight of a trident base meant all you had to do was make sure there was a paper bag in the house to pop over your head when the early warning system kicked off.

All seems so complicated these days, and you hardly ever get paper bags from the shops. I feel thoroughly unprepared:(.
 
Good one Martyn!:lmao: :lmao:

If some of you haven't seen any threads about this before then you probably weren't thinking about it all that much, at least, not enough to use the search function either on here or on Google in general.

Much as the moderators would like to ignore such ramblings, they often get out of hand and in the past, threads that have started in on bushcraft vs. survival vs. the end of the world, have gone bad and ended up getting locked, but only after they cause unnecessary bad feeling. This particular thread had all the hallmarks of going down hill fast. People were already talking about lawless gangs and carrying weapons. As I said, there are lots of other places that encourage that kind of discussion. BCUK just isn't one of them.

So many people post to threads like this to indulge their fantasies. Having to run for the hills, then living off the land for an extended time while the rest of the population flounder around is highly improbable. It does however have a Walter Mitty style appeal.

Realistically it is impossible to be prepared for everything, so why not go for the statistically most likely problems...relatively short periods without electricity, gas, water, or worse yet, internet connection ;).

If you live in a flood plain, then be prepared for floods, if you live a long way from the shops, prepare for being cut off for a period. Mostly the process of being prepared is really REALLY boring. It doesn't have nearly the same zing as bragging that you have an enormous rucksack ready to be grabbed should society unexpectedly fall apart. The solutions to these problems aren't dramatic and don't really need to be discussed. People have known about them for a long time, and there is ample information that is already there, just waiting to be accessed, on-line.

Of course, deciding whether it would be more practical to fry alien zombie chickens with a trangia, or over an open fire, is more entertaining. :rolleyes:
 
This summer we had big storm pass though here only last like 15 min. tress down all over two on my house lasted 3 days i loved ever min of it.Sat out side and made coffee and eats etc..See i have a shop full of stoves it hard to pick one to use also candle light i have lanterns but i like candles. Even if the water gets cut off the hot water tank got 40 gal. so just drain it off no big deal.
 
This summer we had big storm pass though here only last like 15 min. tress down all over two on my house lasted 3 days i loved ever min of it.Sat out side and made coffee and eats etc..See i have a shop full of stoves it hard to pick one to use also candle light i have lanterns but i like candles. Even if the water gets cut off the hot water tank got 40 gal. so just drain it off no big deal.

Well said Robert, I'm much the same as you in that I have a heap of stoves/lanterns/candles and fuel, and I do carry a bigger than the average household stock of food, I also have a clear stream out the back which has never run dry in my near 20 years of being here:)

The problem with a thread like this is that you are not going to please all the people all the time. If I want to talk and learn about nature and good old fashioned camping I come here, for serious stove chat I go to a stove forum, for survivalist chat I go to the Ludlow site or Frugal Squirrel, BB for knives, and soon SofTP as I have a yen to learn to canoe before I'm too old. Its all about horses for courses, use the right forum for the right sort of chat. I know several people here who share other interests with me other than bushcraft, so most of my chat with them is via private email/PM, doing this keeps the boat on an even keel so to speak and cuts down on friction here

Just my pennies worth anyway;)
 
Oooooooh zombies are we going with Shaun of the Dead zombies or night of the Living Dead types?

Are they safe to eat fried? Is there a Collins field guide I can get?:lmao: :lmao:

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