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Certainly an interesting proposition to what we deem to be conventional solar install - as you say tends to stay with the property and unless purchased directly , partly the lease of the solar company installing and a contract.


Would be interested to see what an Electricians view point on the plug-n-play aspect is and if it does pose a potential concern.
 
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Certainly an interesting proposition to what we deem to be conventional solar install - as you say tends to stay with the property and unless purchased directly , partly the lease of the solar company installing and a contract.


Would be interested to see what an Electricians view point on the plug-n-play aspect is and if it does pose a potential concern.

There were a couple of interesting comments below the video (which in itself is a shock), one of which was talking about RCDs not being bidirectional, so having current flowing the opposite way renders it ‘blind’.

Another concern was one of back-feed into the network presenting a danger to people working on the grid for example in event of a power cut.

These seem like serious issues with probably quite trivial/simple solutions though. The fact it’s so popular in Germany shows that it can’t be that difficult to solve.
 
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There were a couple of interesting comments below the video (which in itself is a shock), one of which was talking about RCDs not being bidirectional, so having current flowing the opposite way renders it ‘blind’.

Another concern was one of back-feed into the network presenting a danger to people working on the grid for example in event of a power cut.

These seem like serious issues with probably quite trivial/simple solutions though. The fact it’s so popular in Germany shows that it can’t be that difficult to solve.

< Actually made me laugh as a passive -'diss'!! Probably very correct and I know how you meant - just funny!! >

Yes, I do know what you mean. We don't tend to think in a proactive manner in this country at the level that matters - more reactive and from term to term, political cycle to political cycle.
 
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< Actually made me laugh as a passive -'diss'!! Probably very correct and I know how you meant - just funny!! >

Yes, I do know what you mean. We don't tend to think in a proactive manner in this country at the level that matters - more reactive and from term to term, political cycle to political cycle.
Does sound a bit backhanded on second read! :D

If even bloomin’ Fritz can do it…
 
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The conspiracist in me makes me think that there's no way this will be allowed long term without some kind of licensing/annual check/stealth tax of some kind to make up the profits that'll be lost both in tax revenue and corporate bank accounts.
 
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The kit does look interesting. My need is for a standalone unit to charge the battery on my light hybrid car. The full charge is 15kw and that will provide about 36 miles of travel - ample for our local runs. Currently, it costs me about £3.50 to fully charge which is a little over half the price of petrol to do the same mileage.

The largest Ecoflow system I have found will cost about £2,500 and it's unclear (to me) how much battery capacity that has. Clearly, I can't assume the car can be charging during daylight hours so I need a decent amount of storage. At that price it would take me about 3.5 years to payback.

More maths needed :)
 
The conspiracist in me makes me think that there's no way this will be allowed long term without some kind of licensing/annual check/stealth tax of some kind to make up the profits that'll be lost both in tax revenue and corporate bank accounts.
Better buy one quick sharp then!

Yallah, Yallah!!
 
Technically, you can't use these in the UK without getting an electrician to wire them into your main distribution board. However, as part of their Solar Roadmap, the gov is running a study to look at the feasibility to use these, and that is due to report back this month. The IET has already drafted an amendment - BS 7671 (Amendment 4) - that will reclassify these devices as an appliance rather than an installation, provided they are under a certain power - I think its 800W.

It wouldn't need an act of parliament to approve this - can be done under statutory instruments.
 
It does look like it's getting a lot easier to set up - might be a bad thing. I wonder if we'll be seeing a few house fires soon....

I wouldn't say I have a large social circle but I know two people who've had solar installed profesionally and had serious house fires. One had batteries installed which burnt the whole house down and one a bad wiring job that burnt a garage down.
 
Not watched the whole initial vid... So basically its none storable (directly, but can be used to charge devices/batteries), but useable solar power? If that makes sense?

So after watching it...You dont need to plug it into your house circuit... You can create a separate circuit for your house, thats not mains connected... just runs though all your appliances... get the input output sussed and the issues raised above are null and void right? It wont be connected to mains supply, it wont cause issues in a power cut for the repairmen... you'd just need to think about those things relying on the mains... Lights, showers etc...
 
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