Please help with tree ID

[13rett]

Just getting started and looking for some wood to carve just picking bit's up from the local woods but finding tree ID a right pain and being colour blind is not helping.

This is the first one:

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And also this one:

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Hope my picture's are ok never used photo bucket.

 

[Nice65]

First looks like Hazel, second Ash, or possibly Sycamore.

 

[13rett]

Thanks for that. I had a walk today to get some pictures if this is any help.

So this log

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Is from this tree




And this log



Was from this tree



I think the first one is a Hazel and the second a Sycamore as Nice65 suggested but wanted to be sure.

 

[Toddy]

Sycamore has keys not fruits.
http://www.hairycalyx.com/wildflowers/small_families/maple/sycamore.htm

The leaves and fruits together don't look like anything I know from around here, but service tree does have that kind of combination.
Ask someone like British Red or one of the tree surgeons who know that tree and see what they think.

cheers,
M

 

[Nice65]

I only see 2 bark pics on Tapatalk, are there more?

 

[13rett]

I did add some more picture's but I don't think they have been added.

 

[13rett]

Thanks for all the help.

Hazel and Wild service tree.

 

[British Red]

The Hazel is common as muck

The Wild Service (and I can confirm that is what it is) is very rare - they cannot germinate in the UK climate any more.

The fruit of the Wild Service are known as "Chequers" (which is how the prime ministers country house got its name). They are better slightly over ripe.

 

[13rett]

Thanks for that British Red, I'm new to all of this but learning quick it is a shame that this tree is rare it seems to be a nice wood to carve even tho it was only my first carving.

 

[British Red]

So long as that was a fallen log. If you cut into a Wild Service Tree.......

 

[13rett]

It was fallen I would never cut down a tree or part of a tree. It had been cut down near a train line so I just picked up a already cut piece not even knowing what it was.

 

[British Red]

Thought so from the pictures. Well, enjoy carving it - you may never get another chance! Nothing wrong with cutting down trees (so long as you own them and they aren't covered by a TPO), a real shame to cut down something like that though

 

[13rett]

Thanks again British red and thanks for the info.

 

[Harvestman]

I've always fancied a bit of wild service tree wood, but Red is absolutely right about not cutting a living one. On the other hand, there's one in the reserve i warden which has fallen over. It is still alive and probably could be re-staked, but I'm having a fight with my conscience about it because there are lots of others also planted there. Conscience is winning, and the saw has stayed in the bag so far.

Now if I could get a piece of alder buckthorn large enough to make a spoon from... The wood is supposed to be bright yellow.

 

[British Red]

Give me time and that could be arranged - my alder buckthorn are doing rather well

 

[Toddy]

See if you two get together on the alder buckthorn ? Can I have the bark please ?

It makes a beautiful natural dye

cheers,
M

 

[13rett]

I would like to get some more logs but it would mean cutting it into smaller pieces would I be better off getting in touch with my local council before cutting up fallen trees as the piece i had was only about 10'' long so I just picked it up.

 

[British Red]

I would ask the landowner for sure - offer to pay. If the tree has been pruned for safety reasons, they may be happy for you to remove it. Some like to leave wood "down" for invertebrates to consume and improve the local exosystem. I keep at least one complete tree trunk and numerous rotting logs for just that reason.

Mary - Of course you can! Its only about 3' high and very bushy, but it'll want a prune soon enough.

 

[Toddy]

Thank you
The prunings most likely won't do for carving, but they'll do fine for dye

If anyone comes across a purging buckthorn that's needing pruned, I could find a use that too.

cheers,
M