Petrol and Diesel Shortages

[Paul_B]

There are diesel shortages in my area. Every garage in town is out. Good job I have 80ltrs of it stored in my garage....

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Isn't there something about maximum allowable volume of diesel and petrol that can be stored by member of general public?


I'm not criticising your choice just curious and wondering if you've checked that out in case you're breaching some regulations. I know at my old company there were very strict rules regarding what was needed to store fuel oil and other oil based chemicals.

Being a company they got checked out a few times but you're unlikely to be.

 

[Broch]

Hrmm... I have tank with 2000L of kerosene in, and most farms have thousands of litres of red diesel; I doubt if Van-Wild is breaking any law - though I believe there are regulations about where a new tank can be placed relative to domestic premises.

 

[Van-Wild]

Isn't there something about maximum allowable volume of diesel and petrol that can be stored by member of general public?


I'm not criticising your choice just curious and wondering if you've checked that out in case you're breaching some regulations. I know at my old company there were very strict rules regarding what was needed to store fuel oil and other oil based chemicals.

Being a company they got checked out a few times but you're unlikely to be.

80 ltrs of diesel in 4 separate 20ltr Jerry cans, in a garage out of sight. I'm not concerned. Unless some do gooder nosy git grasses me up......



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[Paul_B]

80 ltrs of diesel in 4 separate 20ltr Jerry cans, in a garage out of sight. I'm not concerned. Unless some do gooder nosy git grasses me up......



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I wouldn't either, it was a academic question.

Iirc you can keep certain volume in metal Jerry cans up to a certain size.

Different fuels have different issues. Work used to use a fuel that could leak from places later fuels could not leak from. Fumes too. Meant for different rules.

 

[TeeDee]

80 ltrs of diesel in 4 separate 20ltr Jerry cans, in a garage out of sight. I'm not concerned. Unless some do gooder nosy git grasses me up......



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That sounds like an Academic answer.

 

[Broch]

I wouldn't either, it was a academic question.

Iirc you can keep certain volume in metal Jerry cans up to a certain size.

Different fuels have different issues. Work used to use a fuel that could leak from places later fuels could not leak from. Fumes too. Meant for different rules.

You can store up to 30L of petrol without informing the Petroleum authorities. Although I frequently have 2 x 20L Jerry cans here

You can store up to 200L of diesel, kerosene, or other 'heavy' oil before you have to meet a number of storage regulations but those are just the same as for a heating oil storage tank.

80L of diesel in 4 separate metal jerry cans is perfectly within the law as far as I can make out.

 

[billycoen]

Thinking about storing a few cans of diesel,would i have to keep it in some sort of bunded area,.just in case of any leaks into drains.

 

[Broch]

Thinking about storing a few cans of diesel,would i have to keep it in some sort of bunded area,.just in case of any leaks into drains.

No, as long as it's less than 200L.

 

[Kadushu]

I don't really want to go back to running my vehicle on veg oil but, as far as I know, there's no limit on how much veg oil you have stored.

 

[Paul_B]

You can store up to 30L of petrol without informing the Petroleum authorities. Although I frequently have 2 x 20L Jerry cans here

You can store up to 200L of diesel, kerosene, or other 'heavy' oil before you have to meet a number of storage regulations but those are just the same as for a heating oil storage tank.

80L of diesel in 4 separate metal jerry cans is perfectly within the law as far as I can make out.

Thanks, good to know.

Aiui there's a limit in volume in plastic containers in your vehicle though. I think there something like that in place in some us states too. During the buying panic earlier this year in Texas I heard about people driving around in pickups with a huge fuel container filling the bed up. I think one reported case the guy had linked it up to the vehicle's fuel system directly too.

Personally I'd rather not have a fuel stock in the garage at home. If there are ever any fuel shortages I'll just stop using the car. Better to prep based on alternative options as even 200 litres of diesel will run out and possibly before any crisis might have finished. It's why I'm living 2 minutes from a train station. If things get so bad that line shuts I doubt a fully fuelled up van will few much use anyway.

 

[billycoen]

No, as long as it's less than 200L.

Thanks Broch.

 

[Broch]

Thanks, good to know.

Aiui there's a limit in volume in plastic containers in your vehicle though. I think there something like that in place in some us states too.

Yep, it's only 10L of petrol (some fuel stations say 5L) - that's all you're supposed to buy if your container is plastic. Steel Jerry cans you can buy 20L. The containers are supposed to be designed for purpose and marked.

I'm not aware of a limit on diesel other than the 200L storage.

 

[TeeDee]

Is new Winter of Discontent ALREADY here?

BP said that it will restrict deliveries of fuel due to the ongoing shortage of HGV drivers, which has also impacted supermarkets and raised fears of Christmas being decimated.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Petrol Rationing.

Welcome to Winter Peeps.

 

[Broch]

Is new Winter of Discontent ALREADY here?

BP said that it will restrict deliveries of fuel due to the ongoing shortage of HGV drivers, which has also impacted supermarkets and raised fears of Christmas being decimated.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Petrol Rationing.

Welcome to Winter Peeps.

That was the Daily Mail!

 

[TeeDee]

That was the Daily Mail!

???? ok.... Yes it was!!! well done for observation!!


However , if you comment was quasi-politically based (?) here are some other links all saying the same thing.

I even found a Bristol Post one for you.

BP crisis: UK told to urgently start rationing fuel deliveries

BP has been forced to close some of its petrol stations and is planning on reducing fuel deliveries amid growing fears over supply networks.

www.express.co.uk

BP to ration fuel deliveries to petrol stations due to shortage of lorry drivers

BP has said it will ration out supplies of petrol and diesel to stations across the UK as the shortage of lorry drivers bring concerns of supplies running

www.energyvoice.com

BP to ration fuel deliveries to forecourts due to HGV driver shortages | Financial News

BP to ration fuel deliveries to forecourts due to HGV driver shortages | Financial News

www.lse.co.uk

BP and Tesco close pumps and ration fuel as deliveries hit by driver shortage

The oil giant has warned the Government it will struggle to keep supplies topped up and called on ministers to change jobs rules for drivers.

www.expressandstar.com

BP to ration fuel deliveries after 'emergency talks'

“We are experiencing fuel supply issues at some of our retail sites in the UK and unfortunately have therefore seen a handful of sites temporarily close"

www.bristolpost.co.uk

 

[Van-Wild]

That was the Daily Mail!

It's already happening here. BP garages in town are all closed. Tesco half the diesel pumps are off.

The thing that makes me wander is when I see a que of vehicles a quarter mile up the road from the garage.... I wander if the panicking is starting already?

Quick! All out to bulk buy toilet roll!!!

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[Duggie Bravo]

Not good timing for me, I pick up my RR Sport tomorrow


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[TeeDee]

Not good timing for me, I pick up my RR Sport tomorrow


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Only if you can get there.

 

[Broch]

Not good timing for me, I pick up my RR Sport tomorrow


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Surely it comes with a full tank of fuel?

 

[slowworm]

Petrol Rationing.

I wouldn't mind if it was properly rationed but if it's just "you can only buy 10l at a time" then people in towns will just keep filling up and people further away from the stations will be a bit suffed.

I'm also finding the constant "we might not be able to buy loads of cheap tat and gorge ourself silly this Christmas" news reports more that a tad annoying.