passing time at night..

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Nice65

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Alcohol won't really help. It'll relax the mind, but is always recommended to be avoided if you're suffering sleep problems.

In fact I gave it up for about 8 months and found myself getting much better quality sleep rather than falling into a dozy stupor and being exhausted the next day.

I do still suffer insomnia occasionally. It'll affect me for a few nights in a row and really gets me down. I go to bed thinking, "Ah, I'm really tired tonight because I haven't slept for two nights", and spend the night awake. Very annoying, but I think it's because I expectantly wait for sleep to come that it doesn't. Busy days ahead also keep me awake.
 

Samon

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I've spent many nights counting and using breathing techniques, even meditating to some extent but my mind is restless and my body exhausted and made worse with acathisia.

I don't sleep well in the dark either, I'm not affraid but I don't like not being able to see where I am when I wake up.

Like I said, I sleep easiest once the sun has just risen, I won't go into too much detail but night time for me is lonely and not very nice so seeing the sun come up is almost like a relief.

anyone got any professional experience with sleep issues?
 

rmbriar

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One thing I've found is something that sounds contradictory- not having enough energy to sleep. I read somewhere that the energy in an apple is enough to sleep for an hour. I know its a good rule of thumb to not generally eat to late at night but if you're topped up on the good, non sugary shaky crazy energy it may help :)
 

Samon

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Nah I'm sick of stuff like that, seems like all anyone does is try to scare us.

Last night was weird.. Managed to get to sleep earlyish (3am) and woke up at 4am and violently puked up while my nose was bleeding.. Was really unpleasnt and strange. It wasn't the cider either, I think it was something I ate.
 

Robbi

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aliens have taken over your body mate !

( i'm thinking high blood pressure and stress mate, it affects us all in different ways, keep notes ( dates, times etc ) and go to the doc's it that continues )
 

Shewie

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Pack the drink in mate and look at the diet too, come bed time you need to clear your mind of any thoughts before you'll nod off.

There's all sorts of stuff in food that keeps you "wired" come bed time, what they are I don't have a clue.

I somehow manage to get by on around 4 to 5 hours sleep a night, the wife has at least 8 or 9 otherwise she's a right grumpy so and so. There's no point me trying to go to bed early if I have to get up to catch a flight or travel somewhere early morning, I don't seem to be able to switch off until around 01:00 - 02:00 usually.
 
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raspberryjam

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Nah I'm sick of stuff like that, seems like all anyone does is try to scare us.

Last night was weird.. Managed to get to sleep earlyish (3am) and woke up at 4am and violently puked up while my nose was bleeding.. Was really unpleasnt and strange. It wasn't the cider either, I think it was something I ate.

Thats not good!! Go see a doc and don't drink booze before bed. I know I just stay up out of boredom, taking advantage of kid free time and bad routine but sounds like you need a good checking over.
 

rik_uk3

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A problem for me is that I like being awake at night :(

I remember talking to a sleep apnea nurse specialist a few years ago and one of his recommendations was not to try and sleep in a very quite room; silence can keep us awake.
 

chris_irwin

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I've always thought sleep was a waste of time, so when I was bored at uni one week I did a bunch of research into sleep just out of interest. Anyway, here are the things I found out when I was looking into sleep that could help you.

1. Sunlight makes your body produce serotonin (I think that's the right one) which keeps your brain active. Many insomniacs are advised to wear sunglasses during the day if they have trouble sleeping, this reduces the serotonin and makes them more tired. Not sure if this applies to you, but worth a shot.

2. You seem to be on the right track with the routine, however, you shouldn't have a set bed time. Your body clock gets used to waking you up at the same time every morning, so you should always get up at the same time. Each time you wake up later or earlier, your body clock is reset.
With this in mind, you should get up at the same time every morning BUT don't go to bed at the same time each night. It's very important that you just go to bed when you feel tired, if you go to bed before you are ready to, you won't be able to sleep. I find that reading a book at around the time you would normally go to sleep helps. Keep reading until you really feel you need to go to sleep.
I think this will help you the most, as going to bed when you're not tired is never going to work..

3. If you wake up in the middle of the night and can't get to sleep, get up. Don't stay in bed thinking about how much you need to sleep. Again, read a book or do something calming that doesn't take much energy until you feel the need to sleep again.

4. Another piece of advice that is often given to insomniacs is to keep a separation between your bedroom and normal life. Try not to use your bedroom for much else besides sleep. Your body will associate the room with sleep, which should make you more relaxed when you get into bed.

Personally, I don't have trouble sleeping so I can't say for sure that all this stuff works. But the science behind it is sound, I especially notice the effects of getting up at the same time anyway.
 

Robbi

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i'm very lucky really, i could sleep on a cloths line, never have a problem, if i close my eyes for more than 10 minutes, i'm asleep :)
 

SimonD

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i'm very lucky really, i could sleep on a cloths line, never have a problem, if i close my eyes for more than 10 minutes, i'm asleep :)
me too :) it's an exceptionally handy skill to have. i haven't been awake for a flight in years. asleep before take off and wake up when we hit the tarmac. when i get into bed at night it is never more than a couple of minutes before i'm asleep. my wife reckons i must have a very clear conscience :D

samon, sorry for not helping and being a bit smug:eek:
 

Shewie

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me too :) it's an exceptionally handy skill to have. i haven't been awake for a flight in years. asleep before take off and wake up when we hit the tarmac. when i get into bed at night it is never more than a couple of minutes before i'm asleep. my wife reckons i must have a very clear conscience :D

samon, sorry for not helping and being a bit smug:eek:

Now flights I can do, I think it's the humming noise that sends me off. It drives the wife mental especially on long flights, she just wakes me up now and then to feed and water me and then I'm straight off again.
 

Samon

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ugh.. still can't settle down. I woke up after a few hours of crummy sleep this morning with batman neck, stiffer than road kill! hurts like heck too..

It's got me thinking, how do I soundproof my closet? egg boxes, lots and lots of egg boxes? I fancy practicing my music while I'm awake at such unsociable hours but don't want to wake swmbo..

anyone else awake at these hours with ideas of how to pass the time?
 

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