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Utter stupidity.

What about the latex gloves the staff wear at the food counters? Are they going to ban kids from eating birthday cake incase of cross-contamination from the latex?

This kind of thing really winds me up.

The world's becoming too safe. People seem intent on stopping the enjoyment of the many incase it offends or injures the very few. Every now and then things go wrong, but that's no reason to stop those things entirely.


I personally can't eat large amounts of garlic as it brings on fearsome headaches. Imagine, if you will, I eat a meal in the staff canteen at work without realising it contained a lot of garlic. I would get a debilitating headache and most likely have to have the day off. If the headache worsened I would need to visit my Doctor and be prescribed strong painkillers. This would result in me losing at least a days wages and the deadliine for the job being put back by 24 hours or more, plus all the repurcussions that may come from that.
Would I, or any of my colleagues, insist they stop offering food containing garlic?
Would we hell.
The fact that everyone else enjoys the food that is being served is far more important than the fact that I can't eat it.
I'd just put it down as ''one of those things'' and get on with it.
 
I attended an induction recently for the building site I'm working on and they ran through all the health and safety rules to be followed on site. While the guy was talking he mentioned that even with all the risk assessments and ridiculous H&S regulations that have been introduced over the last 10 years, the accident rate hasn't dropped - in fact it's risen.

:rolleyes:
 
No theres still 50% of all accidents on site caused by falling off ladder's or scaffold's; but you do now have a lucrative H&S industry with the wages and pensions of its jobsworth facilitator's to find, they have to be seen to be doing something to justify the expense. Site safety depends on responsible, mature blokes being sensible and looking out for each other. Just because an official did a risk assesment and handed out a folder of a4 photocopies wont make the place any safer, just covers the firm in case an accident does happen so they arent liable. H&S basically is a way to try to stifle free enterprise business. Oh dear, I'd better watch what I say seeing as the last thread that touched on H&S got a bit wound up :D I mean the one about the old lady was from the daily mail (so it must be lies all lies) and yet it was on a bbc show (beacons of truth and journalistic impartiality) so what is the true picture??
Any way if latex is so dangerous why do they use it in hospital gloves :confused: And jojo is probably right,tescos probably do sell party ballons. Why sell crackers, the bang might give someone a hart attack! Why sell bikes someone might drop it on their toe.
 
Could not resist this one for another completely daft bit of H&S and political correctness!

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070814/tod-britain-entertainment-children-offbe-6058bda_1.html

But I bet you that if you look, you'll find they are selling the same stuff to kids;)

Tescos and Morrisons stopped selling balloons that contain Natural rubber latex sometime in May of this year.
Like peanut allergies back in the 1980’s people thought that was a joke too, nowadays in the UK there are an average of 6 deaths and many more near deaths of children each year from ingesting peanut products.
I kind of guess it is amusing until it is someone you know.

The more you are exposed to latex the greater the risk of a anaphylactic reaction to it, children, who are in hospital a lot, for whatever reason get sensitised by repeated exposure to Latex, and heath care workers suffer most if not all of the severe symptoms According to a report given to the government by the Royal College of Physicians something like 8% of all healthcare workers have a severe reaction to wearing latex. (contained in the same report given to the Select Committee on health, in 2004 is this interesting quote by Dr Shuaib Nasser, a consultant allergist at Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, who told them that:-
“In an allergy clinic 10 years ago, if we saw a patient with a fruit allergy or a latex rubber allergy, we would call everyone in the clinic round to talk to the patient. All the doctors, all the nurses would come round and we would talk with great enthusiasm with the patient because this was such a rare disorder. Now we see these patients two or three times a week and there is nothing surprising about it. The health service has to evolve with the changing pattern of illness”
 
We have had a little Maori boy and his family staying with us this and last week who has a bad possibly fatal reaction to peanuts.

His parents do not insist that our children refrain from peanut butter or that we ban peanut products. They appreciate it is their responsibility to alert us and to ensure that he does not eat what can harm him. We help as best we can and life has been great. We all go out eat out and all has been fine.

My daughter has a severe skin allergy to some products possibly gum or latex based. She is eight. It is HER responsibility to avoid band aids, some face paints and so on. We tell the teacher but appreciate that she may forget (and she has) but don't freak out. My daughter comes with me into the bush where there are plants and things that can cause very severe reactions and enjoys life. She also has moderately severe asthma but does what she wants and is not restrained. She has to find her limits herself and manage it herself.

The solution is not to inconvenience others and mess up our world by making it ever more artificial and causing children to fail to develop strong immune systems and yet more allergies because they did not play in the dirt and so on.

If you have a boy in a bubble, love and look after him by all means, but remember it is you who made the choice to 'let' him live so it is your responsibility to look after him not other peoples.
 
We have had a little Maori boy and his family staying with us this and last week who has a bad possibly fatal reaction to peanuts.

His parents do not insist that our children refrain from peanut butter or that we ban peanut products. They appreciate it is their responsibility to alert us and to ensure that he does not eat what can harm him. We help as best we can and life has been great. We all go out eat out and all has been fine.

My daughter has a severe skin allergy to some products possibly gum or latex based. She is eight. It is HER responsibility to avoid band aids, some face paints and so on. We tell the teacher but appreciate that she may forget (and she has) but don't freak out. My daughter comes with me into the bush where there are plants and things that can cause very severe reactions and enjoys life. She also has moderately severe asthma but does what she wants and is not restrained. She has to find her limits herself and manage it herself.

The solution is not to inconvenience others and mess up our world by making it ever more artificial and causing children to fail to develop strong immune systems and yet more allergies because they did not play in the dirt and so on.

If you have a boy in a bubble, love and look after him by all means, but remember it is you who made the choice to 'let' him live so it is your responsibility to look after him not other peoples.
I'm sure that was the very same policy for all those kids whose toys, cots, and doors were painted with lead paints. It did not work then and it does not work now. Kids who have a mild reaction sure, they get a second chance, those whose reactions are more extreme, don't.
There was a chap on a TV programme, who knew he had a skin reaction to peanuts, and as you suggested he took great pains to avoid them, he was on a cycling trip along the Kennet and Avon canal. He stopped to have a bite to eat at a small shop. Bought a sandwich, took one bite, and despite treating himself with his eppie pen he died. 30 minutes from happy to dead.
All it took was a combination of factors; the sun, the exercise, the peanut oil on the glove of the person he served him his lunch. As you will be aware, most of the near deaths from anaphylactic shock are caused by things that are outside of the normal routine of the sufferer.
I’m not one for wrapping my child up in bubble wrap, nor am I one for exposing her to foolish risks. She is lucky that she is not allergic to anything, and from when she started to crawl, she has been exposed to all kinds of dirt. Other kids are not so lucky, and they are the ones who deserve the chance to be entertained safely.

If you want Mr Balloon man at your party, and you know that your kids are ok, or even if you know that they are not ok, but you are willing to take that risk, then that is 100% fine. However, if you're just some Joe going shopping with you family then I do not think anyone has the right to expose Joe’s kids to an unknown risk, a risk that Joe did not ask to be exposed to nor given a chance to prepare for.
Some old granny off shopping does not want to have to postpone her shopping as the entrance way is covered in soapy water from Mr Bubbles bubble machine, same goes for pregnant women.
 
A little while back, I had an allergic reaction to Cocobolo wood dust. Nothing too severe, just quite unpleasant for a few days. I consider it my fault. I have worked with woods long enough that I should have checked, there is enough information now on the net, and if I had l looked I would have found out. That'll teach me to be stupid, or maybe not. My choice.

What I try to get at is that I am taking responsibility for my action and don't go blaming anyone or try to stop anyone using the staff, I am not calling for cocobolo to be banned. I don't want to be told by "the authority" that I or anyone must stop using or doing something, or that I must wear this or that or put 3 metal signs on the road and wear fluorescent jacket. It erodes our power of judgement and our sense of personal responsibilty to be constantly herded and "protected" from ourselves, through life's dangers. If the idea that we are responsible for ourselves it constantly eroded, that's when we start building the blame culture: a lot easier to blame someone else, and a step closer to the lawyer ands sueing for the most minor and petty reason.

Blimey, that's some rambling for this time of the morning. Hope it make sense and it is someone else's fault if it does not:D

Now where is the phone number of that hot shot lawyer......
 
"why did you cross the road"? says the puzzled, old fashioned bushcrafter to the thouroghly modern, fluorescent yellow jacketed chicken, half mangled on the middle of the road???

"Nobody told me not to" says the chicken. "it's not my fault".

Ok, Ok, not a very good joke, just idle thinking whilst having a shower.:D
 
In my half centuary of living I have picked up lots of injuries, ranging from minor scars to a paralasis of half my face, doing things that I concidered fun .... silly b*gger arn't I, coz IT WAS MY OWN SILLY FAULT! Why sue anyone? I took the risk (living and having fun) no one made me do it and I was aware that - - in the imortal words - "Life is a terminal disease" no one gets out alive folks!
I am concidering sueing the b*stards who limmit my life experience buy banning risk in all its forms!
 
I bet Darwin is spinning in his grave right now...

I bet he's glad he's not still alive in this farcical world we live in.

Maybe I should start making bubble suits!

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I kind of guess it is amusing until it is someone you know.

I dont find it amusing, do you? More like saddened and annoyed that increasingly we cannot legally consider ourselves "safe" unless the dear old state alllows us the privelidge. And that personal responsibility has been abdicated and that only when the state is in charge we are secure, and that even to question that or want to live independently of that is somehow anti social or iresposible, and that somehow "all" employers are stereotyped and stigmatised as crass greedy iresponsible criminals, and our only hope of safety from their actions is yet more statist interference. In all seriousness (I was trying to introduce a bit of sarcastic hyperbole levity when I sudgested they shouldnt sell bikes :D ) some council sooner or later will close there swimming pool in case someone drowns, or shut the golf course in case someone get's hit by a ball or a club, or even shut the libray in case someone drops a book on there foot.
In one factory where I worked they had a H&S officer who only had one eye (caused by an industrial accident :rolleyes: ) While I was there there was several amputations from power saw's,lots of other "minor" injuries. his record was abomiable. He later went to work for the council, as a H&S officer, so this person will now be interfering in other peoples business (literally) on behalf of the state, despite his track record of incompetence :confused: .
 

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