nets

[hardr004]

Does anyone know how to make a net for fishing?

 

[Bravo4]

Hi hardr004,
On my to-do list. I've got my netting needle and spacer made up which was a fun project. Anyway, I've had these sites bookmarked for awhile, perhaps they might be of help.
A very basic string bag:
http://wampumkeeper.com/netstringbag.html

Fish&Hammocks, The Art&Craft of Netting
http://www.nightshaderose.com/netting/start-net.php

A knot you'll need to know (sailors call it a sheet bend)

 

[asemery]

You will find a lot of information at the "Nets and Net Making Forum"
http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/index.php?c=7
even a section to ask specific netting related questions. Tony

 

[hiho]

bookmarked for reading tomorrow

 

[woodcraftwanderings]

Hi

For a good introduction into net marking would recommend :

http://knotsindeed.com/index.html
http://www.ropeworks.biz/reader/net-1.pdf

These will give you the patterns for making a basic rectangular net for drift nets etc. For fishing net specific stuff i.e. mesh sizes :

http://www.cast-net-king.com/main.htm
http://www.archive.org/details/nettingmaterials034862mbp

Had a go at making a long net for rabbits a while back, takes a lot more cord then you think, not to mention the wear and tear on the fingers. I guess your looking at a 1" - 2" mesh, would go for the bigger mesh size as it will take less time to make the net.

 

[Ogri the trog]

Knowing how to make the knots and size the mesh is one thing,

..... but having the patience to make a whole net is something else. From teh little that I've done with netmaking, it'd be a whole lot easier to buy a ready-made net and use your knot-work to repair any holes once it has been used a few times.

Happy tatting

Ogri the trog

 

[gregorach]

..... but having the patience to make a whole net is something else.

Aye, and if you consider the amount of work involved in making the cordage first, it's a wonder they were ever invented. I guess a lot of people must have been very bored on those long dark winter nights...

 

[nuggets]

Aye, and if you consider the amount of work involved in making the cordage first, it's a wonder they were ever invented. I guess a lot of people must have been very bored on those long dark winter nights...

or hungry !!

 

[gregorach]

Considering the massive up-front investment of effort required, I don't think net-making is something you'd turn to if you were already hungry. Sick of limpets, perhaps...

 

[stuart f]

This is a good wee handy book http://www.readcountrybooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=274.

Sorry for the

It always surprises me when it comes to hand made cordage,that we moderns seem to shriek at the very thought having to go through the process of making it.I suppose its the old nugget of i want it now instantly.
But if you do go down the road and are prepared to make your own the rewards are so much greater,also if you split up the whole process into 4 separate stages rather than trying to do the whole lot all in one go,you won't lose heart as much.
1 gathering the raw materials.
2 process the raw material into fibers.
3 make up the cordage.
4 make the desired article IE nets.

Now i know whats coming next,the replies."Its time consuming".
Yes it is but its only TIME,you can make cordage at your leisure.Once you get to grips with the methods,it becomes second nature,you can sit watching TV,chat to someone and all the while your hands get on doing the work,with only the occasional glance to check your progress or lay in some new fibers.
As for our ancestors it must have just been like that,sitting making up cordage all the while chatting round the fire,rather than thinking"oh my god,I'm bored,when will this tedium end"

All I'm saying is give cordage a chance,now theres a song in that line

Again sorry for going off topic.

Cheers Stuart.
Now ducking for cover.

 

[gregorach]

I'm rubbish at multi-tasking. If my hands are doing something, that's all I'm doing. I can't even daydream whilst doing something else - I just end up daydreaming. This is why I hate doing the washing up.

 

[Grooveski]

I like making string. Haven't done much with natural materials but I twist up lots of bowstrings and find it strangely therapitic.

I most definately daydream although I made some last year while a buch of us were camped out and it was just something to do while while my hands weren't doing anything else.

 

[Toddy]

In the past folks made stuff as they walked, talked, sat........look at all those old photos of women knitting as they carried creels on their backs going to or from the peats or the tatties or the fishing boats. Spinning's the same, I can spin and talk and demonstrate and walk around at the same time. Drop spindle that is, not on the wheel.

When Fiona was going on the kishie making course she needed 60+ fathoms of rush rope. It seemed like a huge quantity, but she just started and kept going until she was done. Bit by bit and it builds up

Netmaking is one of those funny ones. Modern netmaking techniques are virtually impossible to undo, so the cordage is effectively useless for anything else.
There's a kind of twisted into it's own spun lay type of net called Neolithic netting. Sometimes referred to as knotless netting. It's not only a really sound net, but it can be unwound as needed to restore the cordage Much more practical for a bushcrafter

cheers,
M

 

[g4ghb]

There's a kind of twisted into it's own spun lay type of net called Neolithic netting. Sometimes referred to as knotless netting. It's not only a really sound net, but it can be unwound as needed to restore the cordage Much more practical for a bushcrafter

Hey Mary - no fair! - don't tease us like that........

 

[stuart f]

Hi Mary,thanks for the post,i had never heard of Knotless net method before now.But i just googled it and found this site http://basketmakers.org/topics/bytechnique/knotlessnetting/knotlessnetting.htm
Well it looks like i will have to be learning another method now,to have under the skills belt

Thanks Stuart.

OH ps those mags you gave me a loan of are good reading,its a pity some articles are in a foreign language,as they looked interesting also.

All the best.

 

[asemery]

For more on knotless netting you can check out this secton of the "Nets and Net Making" forum mentioned above. Tony
http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/about660.html

 

[Toddy]

Both those sites show very decorative netting. The technique works well to make a plain square mesh net too.

The secret is to wrap so that the turns can bed themselves down in among the twists of the thread they are wrapping. Kind of like turning a three ply cord into a six ply one......sort of.

That twist holds the netting secure, but because bit of original cordage is in itself properly made, they can be unwound again

Easy to try, just use a length of string

cheers,
M

 

[Toddy]

Neolithic netting link........more as we find them ?

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Neolithic netting&f=false

cheers,
M

 

[jdlenton]

great thread guys loads of info I've done a fair but of cordage and net making but this thread has given me some ace ideas thankyou