My new edc pocket knife

Lacijag1

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Not long ago I bought a new knife which is a World Legal from Lansky.
I use this knife as my main edc knife. So far very happy with it, cuts well and very comfy in the hand.
This is my review video about this knife:

[video=youtube;WvA_ub4mswg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvA_ub4mswg&index=1&list=PLRMS9rkv8u3sePy7W4kO32BZ XfRKid3D9[/video]
 
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mrcharly

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That knife again . . .

If you like it, good for you, enjoy it. I'd suggest not trying to argue its legality with a copper tho'. Technically it may be legal, but it is the opposite of 'sheeple friendly'.
 

Corso

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I think its as ugly as sin and the blade shape next to useless for the tasks I undertake but if its under 3" blade slipjoint Ican't see the copper would be able to have an issue

I'd be more concerned about a SVORD friction folder myself
 

British Red

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If you are going to smash the pommel (glass breaker) into something, close the blade first. I know your hand is likely to move away from rather than towards the cutting edge, but none the less, holding an open blade and making a violent movement towards an object expected to shatter is daft, you do not need the blade open to use the glass breaker.
 

mick91

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Spyderco grasshopper personally and I quite like it. I don't really see why locking blades are seen as such an issue these days. Surely one can do as much damage with a box cutter or Stanley if you have the mind to. Should come down to common sense in the fact if I'm carrying a small locking folder im probably doing nothing wrong
 

Lacijag1

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That knife again . . .

If you like it, good for you, enjoy it. I'd suggest not trying to argue its legality with a copper tho'. Technically it may be legal, but it is the opposite of 'sheeple friendly'.

I have never ever in my life was stopped and searched by police, never had any issues with the cops. And I am not planning to do anything that would give a reason to the cops to search me. I've been carrying knives in the past 8 years without any problem.
 

9InchNinja

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I stick with an Enzo PK70 mainly. That Lansky is rather lacking in the looks department (IMHO) but if it cuts what you put it on then I suppose that matters not.
 
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I"...And I am not planning to do anything that would give a reason to the cops to search me..."

You don't need to be doing something that would give them a reason, if you are stopped, smile a lot and mention that chap from TV Ray Mears and 'spoon carving' somewhere in the first two sentences.

:)
 

mrcharly

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I have never ever in my life was stopped and searched by police, never had any issues with the cops. And I am not planning to do anything that would give a reason to the cops to search me. I've been carrying knives in the past 8 years without any problem.
Just be aware that there are occasional 'random' stop and search programs in place. When they are, the police have a duty to prove they aren't racial profiling, so they will stop and search all sorts of people. I've been searched on a train station (I was the 'middle-aged white dude' of the hour).

I've twice had to admit to having a knife in my bag. Once during a stop and search at a train station, once when entering a court building. Both times I had a locking sak with me, neither time was it a problem. I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a problem with something 'aggressive-looking'. You aren't allowed to take *any* knives into a court building.
 

Lacijag1

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Just be aware that there are occasional 'random' stop and search programs in place. When they are, the police have a duty to prove they aren't racial profiling, so they will stop and search all sorts of people. I've been searched on a train station (I was the 'middle-aged white dude' of the hour).

I've twice had to admit to having a knife in my bag. Once during a stop and search at a train station, once when entering a court building. Both times I had a locking sak with me, neither time was it a problem. I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a problem with something 'aggressive-looking'. You aren't allowed to take *any* knives into a court building.

I don't go to public places. I work alone and travel with car or bike. I don't even see police officers:)
I understand what u were saying. It is just my experience. I live a normal life do not do anything illegal and I just don't have any issues with the cops.
 

Corso

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You don't need to be doing something that would give them a reason, if you are stopped, smile a lot and mention that chap from TV Ray Mears and 'spoon carving' somewhere in the first two sentences.

:)

Not complety correct

Stop and search: police powers

A police officer has powers to stop and search you if they have ‘reasonable grounds’ to suspect you’re carrying:

  • illegal drugs
  • a weapon
  • stolen property
  • something which could be used to commit a crime, eg a crowbar
You can only be stopped and searched without reasonable grounds if it has been approved by a senior police officer. This can happen if it is suspected that:

  • serious violence could take place
  • you’re carrying a weapon or have used one
  • you’re in a specific location or area
Before you’re searched

Before you’re searched the police officer must tell you:

  • their name and police station
  • what they expect to find, eg drugs
  • the reason they want to search you, eg it looks like you’re hiding something
  • why they are legally allowed to search you
  • that you can have a record of the search and if this isn’t possible at the time, how you can get a copy
Removing clothing: police powers

A police officer can ask you to take off your coat, jacket or gloves.
The police might ask you to take off other clothes and anything you’re wearing for religious reasons - eg a veil or turban. If they do, they must take you somewhere out of public view.
If the officer wants to remove more than a jacket and gloves they must be the same sex as you.
Being searched doesn’t mean you’re being arrested.



From here

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights
 
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"...Not complety correct..."

There you go Lacijag1, in the event that you are stopped and the officer(s) ask to search you, make sure to ask if they suspect you of possessing illegal drugs, a weapon, stolen property or something which could be used to commit a crime.

I'm sure everything will tickity-boo.

:)
 

tallywhacker

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I don't go to public places. I work alone and travel with car or bike. I don't even see police officers:)
I understand what u were saying. It is just my experience. I live a normal life do not do anything illegal and I just don't have any issues with the cops.

Entirely anecdotal. Here is my experience..

It doesn't matter how well behaved or reclusive you are! I am the guy that goes food shopping at 2am and never socialises in public places. I have been stopped and searched multiple times while minding my own business and i live in the lake district (a place not exactly know for hard line policing).

Also your car, bike and place of work are a public place. As a driver at some point you will be open to stop and search.

I don't see the problem with that knife, but i have had legal knives confiscated in the past. I also got skipped straight to final warning while carrying a locking blade home from a shop, it was still in the packaging and marked with the price... The police do as they please if they think they can get away with it.
 

9InchNinja

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something which could be used to commit a crime, eg a crowbar

That's a bit much isn't it? I could use this pencil I have on my desk to commit a crime... And if the boss asks me any more idiotic questions I may well just try it.
 

tallywhacker

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As for the letter of the law on stop and searches, try quoting the law to a police officer here. You will fail the 'attitude test' immediately and reasons will suddenly start being plucked out of thin air. It's best to be polite and pick up the pieces with a solicitor IMHO.
 

Corso

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There you go Lacijag1, in the event that you are stopped and the officer(s) ask to search you, make sure to ask if they suspect you of possessing illegal drugs, a weapon, stolen property or something which could be used to commit a crime.

I'm sure everything will tickity-boo.

:)

Don’t be facetious SB your better than that the point is people aren’t randomly stopped and searched, that would be illegal

That's a bit much isn't it? I could use this pencil I have on my desk to commit a crime... And if the boss asks me any more idiotic questions I may well just try it.

made the same point to an officer friend of mine, needs to be an object the public would reasonably associate with a crime seen out of place - think bag of spray paint or B+E tools while your aimlessly wandering the street, the officer would approach engage you in conversation and take it from there
 
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mrcharly

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To be fair to SB, I believe that police just need vague suspicion to search in the USA.

We have pretty strict laws here about what police are allowed to do. There will be a minority that push the boundaries of what is acceptable, but I'm yet to encounter one of these.

IME, police officers are people too and respond well to politeness and a reasonable attitude.
 

Samon

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Yeah it's a fugly knife, but still really usable. I've had one for a year or more and recently got the newer model. They do make good urban tools and do feel really secure in the hand. And despite how they 'look' they are just as safe and lawful to stuff in your pocket as a little key chain sak!



I might add though, the newer model is significantly better. It's a very effective package destroyer, especially those bombproof plastic vacuum sealed types! It's also more ergonomic, lighter and nicer to use. Still with the reassuringly terrifyingly strong back spring lol.

On the note of 'not sheeple' friendly, well.. produce any knife in a public place and you'll get fingered by evil eyes and all sorts of bullcrap legal 'professionals' regurgitating inaccurate laws to you.
 

Corso

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I also got skipped straight to final warning while carrying a locking blade home from a shop, it was still in the packaging and marked with the price... The police do as they please if they think they can get away with it.

Had to go look that up, had never heard of a final warning , did you accept it? I assume you would have been required to and therefore accepted your guilt?
 

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