didnt get a look at the underside but ill be back there at the weekend. I will also give the Huge polyore lookin one a little prod
and see what happens thanks all
The first does seem to be fly agaric
Also a pretty scary quotes from tests on people.
"The first response occurred in 1 to 2 hours beginning with twitching and trembling. Consciousness was maintained and during this induction phase the subjects were euphoric and contented. Then the visions came on"
"In large quantities more severe hallucinations and rages occurred. The initial excitation could become more and more severe leading to attacks of raving madness. In some cases motor excitation was dominant."