Military Trangia ~ Falcon Mess kit review

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Alan 13~7

Settler
Oct 2, 2014
572
5
Prestwick, Scotland
“A Genuine Trangia military burner”
(& by that I mean not a trangia civvi burner & not an army Svea)
The Trangia Triangle & the Falcon Enamel Billy.

Boil Times & quantities given here are not scientific and are meant only as a rough guide for the purpose of the review.

Lighting the burner I placing the Billy over the flame immediately not waiting for the burner to bloom, with the Billy filled up to the line, a little over 1½ Pints, (900ml) @ 4 minutes in, the burner bloomed & A rolling boil was achieved in just 20 minutes.

Using 35 ml’s of B&Q Bio~ethanol, the pot did not soot up & had only a tiny deposit of beige coloured patina on the bottom, the paper barcode label on the bottom of the Billy which I had forgotten to remove was still perfectly intact & barely even scorched not really relevant, but I think worth a mention.

After 20 minutes the entire Billy was too hot to handle with bare hands & although the cup/lid on top was a little cooler it too was too hot to handle...

The wire bail which is very thin, soft & pliable had pinged off after around 10 minutes & was very hot, once it had cooled a little It was easily put back in place it may need a more secure way of attaching, I think also a modification of some kind maybe required. Possibly the addition of a wooden bead threaded onto the bail.

In conclusion: ~ This seems to be an excellent cook combo. It has good weight to capacity ratio, it’s pretty robust & The base of the Billy is not flat it has a sort of stepped dimple, which allows for a perfect mirage between stove & pot creating a very stable fit & set up.

At 20 minutes, a slow burn yes, But using 35mls of Bio~ethanol to boil 1½ pints,

Over all I am pleased with this Mess kit.

Edit:~ apologies I made an error in calculating the amount of fuel used 35mls not 10mls I have corrected now!

How this happened I initially filled the burner with a little 25mls measuring cup & miss counted 3 cups making 75ml when infact I had used 4 cups = 100ml ext 25 mls and as I had recovered 65ml at the end of boil etc etc
 
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Polecatsteve

Nomad
Aug 20, 2014
285
5
Scotland
Did you use a wind shield/stand..I'm a sucker for pictures but 20mins for boiling water. Seems a lifetime! I use a trangia burner in a trangia triangle and a GSI glacier mug for one person brewing. A stanley adventure pot for 2 or when more space needed.

Gota love those little stoves.

Sounds good mate!
 

Alan 13~7

Settler
Oct 2, 2014
572
5
Prestwick, Scotland
Hi Steve.... pictures to follow..... 20 mins for just short of 1ltr right enough but just 10mls of fuel used Naaaa????? Doh! that sounds too good to be right.. I have came to the conclusion that I must have made a massive error in calculating fuel used... so suspecting how I had made such an error... I did the test again & as I suspected 25mls short so 35 not 10

How this happened? I initially filled the burner with a little 25mls measuring cup & miscounted 3 cups making 75ml when infact I had actualy used 4 cups = 100ml an extra 25 mls and as I had recovered 65ml at the end of boil etc etc

so I had actually used 35ml & not 10 Doh!... will correct op now...

and just a standard triangle with a military burner...
 
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Alan 13~7

Settler
Oct 2, 2014
572
5
Prestwick, Scotland
The army burners are too big and take too long to 'bloom'...20 minutes is a long time.

I don't normally wait for the bloom & am not usually in a hurry so 35mls fuel to boil 1litre water in 20 mins that's the falcon Billy trangia combo... MMMM not the best eigh??? maybe even a bit crap then? looks good though.

I still favour the swedish army aluminium mess kit with the military burner I have never had issues with slow boil times on that & I have cooked a large variety of stuff on it so still my kit of choice....
 

Alan 13~7

Settler
Oct 2, 2014
572
5
Prestwick, Scotland
I'm a sucker for pictures

Gota love those little stoves.
pictures as requested..

https://flic.kr/p/AsZ2Fx
Military Trangia Falcon mess kit


Falcon Billy weighing in at 375g

https://flic.kr/p/A7KvsM

Military Trangia burner in Trangia triangle & Simmer ring/snufferouter

For anybody that's weight conscious It's 648g total kit (that's billy, burner, trangia triangle & tatonka simmer ring...)

Tatonka flame adjuster £7.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321086094252?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
 
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Jaeger

Full Member
Dec 3, 2014
670
20
United Kingdom
Aye Up Alan 13-7,

That's a neat little set up.

Out of interest is the burn time-to-amount of H20 proportional? i.e. would 300ml boil in 6+minutes?
 

Polecatsteve

Nomad
Aug 20, 2014
285
5
Scotland
Love the trangia triangle. I have used it to build small contained fires within or as a stove top / chimney for a small Dakota fire pit. Let's you easily cook on top of if. Very versatile and light.

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All packs into the stanley cook pot. Tend not to take the green mug. Only if my missus is with me. Otherwise just the GSI glacier.

I really don't need any more stuff...but they are nice little sets. ....maybe for the car...or shed. Or loft...lol
 

Alan 13~7

Settler
Oct 2, 2014
572
5
Prestwick, Scotland
Aye Up Alan 13-7,

That's a neat little set up.

Out of interest is the burn time-to-amount of H20 proportional? i.e. would 300ml boil in 6+minutes?

hi jaeger Good point well put... I really don't know, is that how it works then? 20 minutes does sound a bit pants but when you put it like (300ml boil in 6+minutes?) it does sound better... I will do a test burn tomorrow. I was wondering if the 1/4" drop putting the pot closer to the burner was enough to make any significant difference?

I do like the way it looks too.. But I don't know if it's an option yet, I haven't made up my mind, I do still like my army ally mess kit, Big shoes to fill...
 
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Alan 13~7

Settler
Oct 2, 2014
572
5
Prestwick, Scotland
Love the trangia triangle.

Hi Steve I've Had the triangle for ages now... not used it much, but starting to get to know it, I use the military burner because it makes the burner support ring obsolete (one less part) & also to extend burner capacity/burn time...

Some say "The army burners are too big and take too long to 'bloom'" (Rik) not so I find This point is moot AS you can prime them first, they "bloom" in seconds... I never do this as I find there is no real need to waste fuel waiting for a bloom. Light the burner put the pot on immediately & it will bloom pretty fast anyway...
 
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Alan 13~7

Settler
Oct 2, 2014
572
5
Prestwick, Scotland
Aye Up Alan 13-7,

That's a neat little set up.

Out of interest is the burn time-to-amount of H20 proportional? i.e. would 300ml boil in 6+minutes?

The answer is YES Jaeger 15mls fuel boils 300ml water in 6 1/2 minutes

WARNING! Don't put the falcon Billy in the dishwasher, they shrink & the bail falls off...

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