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You could skinny on some kit but the trade off is cost, I use a Berghaus micro jacket with a Berghaus changze alpine shell, its water proof and warm, packs to nothing but the cost is savage! next I'm looking at the bulk of the sleeping bag, again there is some super kit out there but sweet jesus the price tag!
 
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You could skinny on some kit but the trade off is cost, I use a Berghaus micro jacket with a Berghaus changze alpine shell, its water proof and warm, packs to nothing but the cost is savage! next I'm looking at the bulk of the sleeping bag, again there is some super kit out there but sweet jesus the price tag!
This is a problem for most people.
Cost Vs Lightweight and compactness.

The weight isnt a real problem, I wouldn't want to carry it too far. However SIZE of equipment is a problem.

I use a British Army Carinthia Sleeping bag, German Army Carinthia Bivi bag. Both centre Zip which works for me.

Both Aren't the lightest or most compactable...
But they work very well for me.
 
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This is a problem for most people.
Cost Vs Lightweight and compactness.

The weight isnt a real problem, however I wouldn't want to carry it too far. Size is a problem.

I use a British Army Carinthia Sleeping bag, German Army Carinthia Bivi bag. Both centre Zip which works for me.

Both Aren't the lightest or most comparable...
But they work very well for me.
I also have the army sleeping bag, there really nice but if I cram it in my fast hike 45l pack, its stuffed out like a well made haggis, with about enough room for hoping the weathers good? and sure I could just wing it? ho and maybe a pen knife:D
 
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I also have the army sleeping bag, there really nice but if I cram it in my fast hike 45l pack, its stuffed out like a well made haggis, with about enough room for hoping the weathers good? and sure I could just wing it? ho and maybe a pen knife:D
I think a 55L or a 50L would be a better option.

I just dont understand how a Military 30L Bergan is pitched at 3day?

Even a 50L is pitched at 5day !

Think a 50L with a couple of 3L? side pouches would probably do me...
 
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I think a 55L or a 50L would be a better option.

I just dont understand how a Military 30L Bergan is pitched at 3day?

Even a 50L is pitched at 5day !

Think a 50L with a couple of 3L? side pouches would probably do me...
Joking aside I think with the 45 I could just cram a roll matt, bivvi, pocket rocket and gas, cook set, water bladder, dehydrated food, spare socks maybe a tee, saw an knife, torch, lighter! so yeah the 50l would be more doable.
 
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I can not answer with an 3xplan@tion, as it is not PC, a joke!

Backpack: I do not know how the British Armed Forces units do it, but in the Swedish AF, some units , the units that are issued the various sized backpacks had a very specific equipment list and an exact way how to pack. You could add, but not remove, any equipment.
But if you added anything, you had to place it so the specified items were at the specified place.

The short mission pack, Ryggsäck 35L Komplett, what you guys call Lk35, was enough for around 4 days except winter.

Remember though, our battle uniform trousers had two large thigh pockets, two large front, two large back, the tunic two large front, two breast and two large in the back.
I still remember - 1:st Aid, autoinjector box, leather thong ( to stop heavy bleeding) left thigh.

The content of the other pockets bust have been around 4 litres or so.

To be frank, a well designed 35 l’iter backpack should be enough for three days.

What you need to do is to minimise and pack outside the backpack
 

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Choosing a rucksack is never easy and each passing day brings that terror of replacing my much loved Landtrekka 35 ever closer. The only advice I can offer is to widen your search, ignore the new and take a closer look at 'vintage' hiking gear. Nothing is going to tick all your wish list boxes however backpacks from the period before marketing got involved with design are:
a: ridiculously cheap now
b: almost HALF the weight of similar sized 'modern' pack
c: designed by people who actually used the gear eg: Kelty
 
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In the British Army everything goes inside...
Its not a jamboree... or so I was told.

There were packing lists for every exercise.
But it was at the packers discretion as to what actually went in... just no winging is you had no spair boots !
 
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A Zoot Suit is a parachute material made jacket and trousers, normally used by soldiers in the jungle as night clothes, under cover (tarp or in Hammock) this suit is a lightweight 'dry set' of clean clothing (They are also very quick drying) the same wet clothes from the day before are put on for day / work / combat wear...
Aah, in that case I have a zoot suit ,too. Varusteleka once sold used parachute canopies (olive green). I bought 1/4 part of a canopy and had a seamstress make me a pair of trousers and a jacket.

Me in my zoot suit.
 
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Aah, in that case I have a zoot suit ,too. Varusteleka once sold used parachute canopies (olive green). I bought 1/4 part of a canopy and had a seamstress make me a pair of trousers and a jacket.

Me in my zoot suit.
Now that's a Zoot Suit.
Very similar to mine...

They are a very nice, comfortable lightweight bit of kit.

Wouldn't use it too close to that fire!
 
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If you are strapping stuff to the outside of your bag you need a bigger bag!
Try saying that when you've shot a stag and then need to get it off the hill.....

Every now and then I keep looking at the RM leaf cutter pack. It really looks like the perfect pack (for me), but the price is too much right now.

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Try saying that when you've shot a stag and then need to get it off the hill.....

Every now and then I keep looking at the RM leaf cutter pack. It really looks like the perfect pack (for me), but the price is too much right now.

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Carrying an animal doesn't change my statement at all :D
Besides I always try and shoot them within easy reach of my quad lol
 

Janne

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If you are strapping stuff to the outside of your bag you need a bigger bag!
Well, if you do a bit of trekking winter time, the thick insulating mat and the thick winter season sleeping bag will take up huge space inside the bag.
In Scandihooliganland we roll up the mat, place it in the dedicated water proof bag, let it unroll, then squeeze the sleeping bag inside that.
Strao on top of backpack.
Makes a nice seating for when you rest too. Dry, insulating.
 
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Well, if you do a bit of trekking winter time, the thick insulating mat and the thick winter season sleeping bag will take up huge space inside the bag.
In Scandihooliganland we roll up the mat, place it in the dedicated water proof bag, let it unroll, then squeeze the sleeping bag inside that.
Strao on top of backpack.
Makes a nice seating for when you rest too. Dry, insulating.
Honestly don't care what you claim people do in Scandinavia.
Believe it or not you aren't the only one that's been cold "if I do some trekking in wintertime"

I suppose you just aren't experienced enough to pack properly with decent equipment. Dont worry If you spent some more time outdoors you might learn a thing or two.
 

Van-Wild

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I don't mind having an item strapped to the outside of my rucksack.

If you like things all packed away inside your pack, that's cool. It's all horses for courses ain't it lads.......

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I don't mind having an item strapped to the outside of my rucksack.

If you like things all packed away inside your pack, that's cool. It's all horses for courses ain't it lads.......

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Yep agree with you 100% mate
It's just that some folks annoy me constantly and I end up speaking out of turn;)
 
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