lofty tool v chris caine tool

[lovatscout]

if this argument has already been done then i do apologise
but has anyone got any experience or got anything good to say aboot either tool?
it seems ones the clone of the other and visa versa
would i buy one hmmmm thiking seriously about it
done the you tube vids etc etc but no one really seems to give an honest opinion and i know you guys will
cheers in advance
lovatscout

 

[British Red]

I owned a lofty tool


Wiseman by British Red, on Flickr

I've tested out the Chris Caine


2.2 Single cut by British Red, on Flickr

The CHis Caine is vastly superior in ergonomics and in use

 

[Dark Horse Dave]

I think that's pretty much the conclusion Mark (Lupus) comes to in his review videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLhkH4o3R4&feature=plcp). I know the Chris Caine is the one he carries around himself.

 

[lovatscout]

cainey leads the way at the mid point then
no one has a good word to say aboot the lofty tool
shame that

 

[ged]

Take a look at Duncan's new parang before you do anything like this.

 

[MikeLA]

Another vote for the Chris Caine Tool, a good tool to have

 

[FGYT]

If you want a chris caine i would try and get an older A Wright version not the new Staniforth one as they changed the plunge cut n the grind to bring more cutting edge closer to the handle which IMO makes a weak point which can fail dramatically

[video=youtube;3C9bPJoALas]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9bPJoALas[/video]


and the replacement wont work if you dont fix the design fault


[video=youtube;ePONOyQewn4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePONOyQewn4[/video]



Parangs have an un hardened and unsharpened neck and feathered plunge for a reason

ATB

Duncan

 

[Tiley]

It might also be worth having a quick look at Ben Orford's version of this sort of thing. They are beautifully made and work well.

 

[FGYT]

It might also be worth having a quick look at Ben Orford's version of this sort of thing. They are beautifully made and work well.

saw those at he Knives show that are a much smaller knife than than the Chris or lofty and do have a thin Neck But Ben is probably more on top of proper heat treatment
but then it is twice the price as you would expect from a Custom over a factory made


ATB
Duncan

 

[lovatscout]

I understand most of what's being said but again why do bushcrafters constantly persist in braying knives and parangs with logs? At end of day they are not designed for 5 6 inch logs? At a pinch 3 inch perhaps if your gonna process timber that thick use an axe and a wedge. I've never understood why bushcrafters use the process of battening massive logs with a knife might just be me but I wouldnt even start it. Parangs surely are made for limbing and cutting brashings and poles for shelters etc. am I missing the point? Is it a macho thing to see how thick a log can be split? could someone be kind enough to explain. Shame about the took.breaking tho IM sure that shouldn't have happens even after a beating.
Cheers for now scout

 

[Tengu]

I think its what you do when you dont have a hatchet

 

[Retired Member southey]

A modified Loft tool is very comfy indeed, it is being put to good use my the new owner, but with the short play i had it felt very comfy, and chopped through 1" hazel like I imagine a light sabre would

Modified lofty tool,

 

[JonathanD]

I wouldn't spend my money on either. Too much variation in production standards for the price you pay on both the Caine tool and Lofty tool, and I have quite a bit of first hand experience with both things. Much better putting your money into a Dorset Woodland Blade Design. You know you are getting a quality blade without the blind lottery you get with the other two.

 

[norca]

would go ape if id spent that kind of coin on a knife and it snaps :aargh4:

 

[durhammaker]

Tbh buy a parang when you get onsite or get one made for a fraction of the price before you head off into the ulu by a local maker.

 

[British Red]

Ask JonathanD how well tools made by local cratsmen worked out for him

 

[FGYT]

Ask JonathanD how well tools made by local cratsmen worked out for him

And the UK Forces SERE Instructor Training team

oh and An Aussie SERE Instructor

 

[JonathanD]

Tbh buy a parang when you get onsite or get one made for a fraction of the price before you head off into the ulu by a local maker.

Ask JonathanD how well tools made by local cratsmen worked out for him

I wouldn't trust my life to one of these again.

 

[durhammaker]

Is a parang worth £335........nope!

 

[palace]

I have held,tried and own a few Parang's I was recently at Dorset Woodland Blades and saw Duncan's (FGYT) Jungle Parang working hard to convince SHMBO that I NEED one, before buying anything else at least look see.