When I looked at getting a set for .410 the seemed to be a few companies in the US that made them so I doubt there's a problem with making them.
Quite. I'd find it hard to think they owned the patent on the design.
When I looked at getting a set for .410 the seemed to be a few companies in the US that made them so I doubt there's a problem with making them.
Quite. I'd find it hard to think they owned the patent on the design.
I just looked at mine (for 30-06) It has the patent number stamped on it: 3134293.
I don't know if that's for the design, but I suspect it is as it would be unlikely they'd patent all the individual calibers separately.
google just the number and it comes up
http://www.google.com/patents/US3134293
Was said its an improved design so amy get around the Specifics of paitent but tho more than making oen for your own use would be infrigment i doubt they will go after a small run if they ever actually found it
All conjecture, but if that's true, then there are three possibilities:
1) Yes, the patent has expired and there's no difficulty (seems the most likely if there's more than one company making them) or
2) They're making them under an agreement with Lee, or
3) They've bought the patent (would also be likely if there were only one company making them rather than "a few.")
1. The patent on the Lee Loader has now expired therefore they are perfectly legal to make and supply.
2. From my experience so far the US copies/designs are unfortunately appalling because of poor workmanship and materials.
3. The Loaders are also different from the original Lee Loader, they are in fact not direct copies. Id' say they are improved.
4. It is not a Worldwide patent even if it wasn't defunct. The Chinese are not breaking a US patent when they manufacturer something themselves and their patent laws are different anyway. Patent Pending has no legal standing.
5. The design is no longer manufactured in the relevant....
1. The patent on the Lee Loader has now expired therefore they are perfectly legal to make and supply.
2. From my experience so far the US copies/designs are unfortunately appalling because of poor workmanship and materials.
3. The Loaders are also different from the original Lee Loader, they are in fact not direct copies. Id' say they are improved.
4. It is not a Worldwide patent even if it wasn't defunct. The Chinese are not breaking a US patent when they manufacturer something themselves and their patent laws are different anyway. Patent Pending has no legal standing.
5. The design is no longer manufactured in the relevant calibre. It is now available in .410 from here though!
6. And and and oh I've lost all enthusiasm........ this has been discussed to death. Can we draw a line under this and concentrate on this as a GB now?
AVAILABLE IN .410 and 12G.
And slug and ball moulds too.
How much are the double ball moulds?
Number 1 is the only relevant point to be honest. However re number 3, worldwide patents are nothing more than trade agreements and treaties. Most common trading partners honor one another's patents (it's called reciprocity) And yes, the Chinese knock-offs are indeed violations if and when those knock-offs are sold in any country with such a trade agreement.
When I looked at getting a set for .410 the seemed to be a few companies in the US that made them so I doubt there's a problem with making them.
If I may please:
1. British Red - 1x 12g Loader, 1x .410 Loader, 00 18 cavity mould and handles, 1oz slug mould.
2. TeeDee - 1x 12g Loader, slug mould(supplied) ### upping my order to include 00 18 cavity mould and handles ####
3. FGYT - 1x 12g Loader
3. widu13 - 1 x 12g loader, 00 18 cavity mould and handles
Have you got a .410 version now?
Reference clarified original description.
Shout now if you would like one as in theory the order is in.
No, I was just looking up details of the hand loading sets when I was looking at a .410. It's not something I need right away and after seeing a muzzle loading shotgun in action that can fire round ball or shot I could be tempted down that route rather than load cartridges.
I'd love to hear how peaple get on with their sets though, and may be interested in future.
can I add a 410 versionas well
and in future will other Bores be avalible to custom order