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I don't mean to sound harsh and I know I don't speak for everybody here, but in the top right hand corner there's a search button TRY IT.
Although everybody here is freindly likes to help everybody else out you've got to make a bit of an effort to help yourself we're not going to be there to carry your kit.
Cheers Boatswain
Although everybody here is freindly likes to help everybody else out you've got to make a bit of an effort to help yourself we're not going to be there to carry your kit.
Cheers Boatswain
oh and by the way.. welcome
there's a great bunch of people here with a wide and diverse range of knowledge who are always willing to share. there's also a pretty good back catalogue of discussions on almost any subject you could think of, but surprisingly considering what the mutual interest is on this site there's nearly always something new as well.
Cheers Boatswain
there's a great bunch of people here with a wide and diverse range of knowledge who are always willing to share. there's also a pretty good back catalogue of discussions on almost any subject you could think of, but surprisingly considering what the mutual interest is on this site there's nearly always something new as well.
Cheers Boatswain
Hi and welcome,
Just have a good look round, both on here and BB, your sure to see something that takes your fancy, just don't spend to much first off, as you will realise when handling different knives, what looks good, ain't always so !.
Mora's seem quite popular as a first knife(i've never had one) and at about a tenner, not a bad price, just don't buy a combat or survival type knife, unless of course you expect to to be in those kind of situations !.
Just have a good look round, both on here and BB, your sure to see something that takes your fancy, just don't spend to much first off, as you will realise when handling different knives, what looks good, ain't always so !.
Mora's seem quite popular as a first knife(i've never had one) and at about a tenner, not a bad price, just don't buy a combat or survival type knife, unless of course you expect to to be in those kind of situations !.
Depends what you are going to use it for......
Can't really go wrong with a Fallkniven F1 for general Woodcraft.
Can't really go wrong with a Fallkniven F1 for general Woodcraft.
To save you some time searching through "knife" posts, buy a Mora for now.
Upgrade later, after you've had a chance to blunt it and review the contradictory opinions.
Upgrade later, after you've had a chance to blunt it and review the contradictory opinions.
Just to clarify things for camokid...
..."Mora" is a town in Sweden, and there are a few knifemakers that make knives commonly called "Moras".
It's a bit like "Sheffield" in that respect.
When people say "Mora" to mean a knife, they usually mean something that's cheap, sharp and good quality made in the style associated with that town's cutleries.
The ones most often discussed are from a company called Frost's (Frosts of Sweden is the full name) and the most common ones from that company are the 740 and 840 "Clipper".
Both of those knives are Carbon Steel, which will rust if you don't take care of it (doesn't take much looking after, just clean and dry it when finished using it and maybe give a wipe with some oil if it's going away for a while), but is easy to sharpen and holds a good edge.
If you want a more carefree blade in the same knives you can get the 760 and 860 "Clipper" knife, which are exactly the same only in stainless steel, which won't rust but are harder to sharpen.
You can see the 740/760 and 840/860 "Clipper" knives here http://lakelandbushcraft.co.uk/acatalog/Cutting.html
There are other "Mora" knives too though.
One is the K.J. Eriksson Mora 2000 as seen here http://heinnie.com/search.asp?s=nqz2xw1244520&strKeywords=mora+2000
I mention all the above as they all have plastic or plastic+rubber handles and are close in price. Some "Moras" have wooden handles.
All are perfectly servicable knives which come at a low cost and will help you figure out what you want a knife to be able to do or do better.
The most expensive of the lot will leave you with change from £30 and you could probably get it cheaper still if you shopped around.
From what I've heard, you can't go wrong with any of the above knives so don't be put off by the low cost...
...the main drawback (and some would disagree even with this) is that you can't beat the living daylights out of these knives like you could with a "full tang" knife (see below for explanation) - but many people would say if that becomes an issue, you shouldn't be using a knife for the job anyway.
Full tang and partial/hidden/stick tang.
Look in your kitchen drawer, if you have cook's knives where you can see metal running the length of the handle, that's a full tang, knives made this way can (at least in theory) stand up to more abuse than other knives. When it comes to things like batoning the knife to split wood, a full tang may be more desirable than a stick tang as it's less likely to break as a result.
If you have a cook's knife with a handle where there isn't a band of metal running all the way along it, that's a "hidden" or "stick" tang like the knives mentioned above. They are perfectly suitable to the same tasks as a full-tang knife, except for when you're really abusing it.
The knife Hoodoo showed in his post is a full-tang knife too.
..."Mora" is a town in Sweden, and there are a few knifemakers that make knives commonly called "Moras".
It's a bit like "Sheffield" in that respect.
When people say "Mora" to mean a knife, they usually mean something that's cheap, sharp and good quality made in the style associated with that town's cutleries.
The ones most often discussed are from a company called Frost's (Frosts of Sweden is the full name) and the most common ones from that company are the 740 and 840 "Clipper".
Both of those knives are Carbon Steel, which will rust if you don't take care of it (doesn't take much looking after, just clean and dry it when finished using it and maybe give a wipe with some oil if it's going away for a while), but is easy to sharpen and holds a good edge.
If you want a more carefree blade in the same knives you can get the 760 and 860 "Clipper" knife, which are exactly the same only in stainless steel, which won't rust but are harder to sharpen.
You can see the 740/760 and 840/860 "Clipper" knives here http://lakelandbushcraft.co.uk/acatalog/Cutting.html
There are other "Mora" knives too though.
One is the K.J. Eriksson Mora 2000 as seen here http://heinnie.com/search.asp?s=nqz2xw1244520&strKeywords=mora+2000
I mention all the above as they all have plastic or plastic+rubber handles and are close in price. Some "Moras" have wooden handles.
All are perfectly servicable knives which come at a low cost and will help you figure out what you want a knife to be able to do or do better.
The most expensive of the lot will leave you with change from £30 and you could probably get it cheaper still if you shopped around.
From what I've heard, you can't go wrong with any of the above knives so don't be put off by the low cost...
...the main drawback (and some would disagree even with this) is that you can't beat the living daylights out of these knives like you could with a "full tang" knife (see below for explanation) - but many people would say if that becomes an issue, you shouldn't be using a knife for the job anyway.
Full tang and partial/hidden/stick tang.
Look in your kitchen drawer, if you have cook's knives where you can see metal running the length of the handle, that's a full tang, knives made this way can (at least in theory) stand up to more abuse than other knives. When it comes to things like batoning the knife to split wood, a full tang may be more desirable than a stick tang as it's less likely to break as a result.
If you have a cook's knife with a handle where there isn't a band of metal running all the way along it, that's a "hidden" or "stick" tang like the knives mentioned above. They are perfectly suitable to the same tasks as a full-tang knife, except for when you're really abusing it.
The knife Hoodoo showed in his post is a full-tang knife too.
You know what, I've always wondered why they were called either 'Frosts' or 'Mora'. I never really knew who the maker was - thought one was the manufacturer and the other was the model name or something. You live and learn.
You do indeed. 
The whole Frosts/Mora thing confused me a lot when I started out. That they are sometimes used interchangably doesn't help.
Once you know what the terms are it all makes more sense.
The whole Frosts/Mora thing confused me a lot when I started out. That they are sometimes used interchangably doesn't help.
Once you know what the terms are it all makes more sense.
Y'know, joking aside, beginner's have to start somewhere.........and BigShot that was a good post. I'd rep you if I could for that 
And Hoodooo...........you have so many good toys
cheers,
Toddy
And Hoodooo...........you have so many good toys
cheers,
Toddy
Toddy - it means plenty to get the appreciation even without a number going up next to my name. Thanks.
Y'know, joking aside, beginner's have to start somewhere.........and BigShot that was a good post. I'd rep you if I could for that
And Hoodooo...........you have so many good toys
cheers,
Toddy
How do you know he's a beginner? Toddy, you been calling the psychic hotline again?
He just said he was a newbie to the site. For all we know, he could be Tom Brown finally in search of a decent knife.
Ok, here's a few good "beginner's" knives. Hultafors, Kellam, or Helle. Or, HEY!. He could get a mora!
How do you know he's a beginner? Toddy, you been calling the psychic hotline again?
Ok, here's a few good "beginner's" knives. Hultafors, Kellam, or Helle. Or, HEY!. He could get a mora!
hoodoo how many knives do you have to date?
fancy doing a page on all of them plus pics, would be so cool to see ALL of them, or would that take years??!!
hoodoo how many knives do you have to date?
fancy doing a page on all of them plus pics, would be so cool to see ALL of them, or would that take years??!!
No idea really.
Sorry Chance. It's just that, "Get a mora" and "Use the search function" are classic conversation killers that I get a little tired of. There are alternatives. We could take the time to have a discussion (it's a discussion forum after all) and there are lots of viable alternatives to a mora that are rarely talked about here. I like moras as much as anyone (maybe even more than most) but there are plenty of viable alternatives out there.
How about "Get a Marttiini!" Or "Get a Jarvenpaa!"
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