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Go to the Drs sharpish, they will hopefully refer to a specialist, or directly for an MRI scan. Only with this scan can anyone know exactly what you have done. They can then prescribe the necessary treatment for you.
I have had both a ruptured MCL and ACL (in different knees). The ACL was operated on and is almost as good as new (this was circa 5 years ago), the MCL can not be currently operated on, and as such I have to be mindful about the activities I partake in; although this hasn't hindered me much at all.
The WORST thing you can do is ignore it; and you've done that for three months - time to get it sorted, these things don't heal themselves.
I have had both a ruptured MCL and ACL (in different knees). The ACL was operated on and is almost as good as new (this was circa 5 years ago), the MCL can not be currently operated on, and as such I have to be mindful about the activities I partake in; although this hasn't hindered me much at all.
The WORST thing you can do is ignore it; and you've done that for three months - time to get it sorted, these things don't heal themselves.
That's not fair. As a mate, I would have used the proper hammer and bolster for the job.
(Good move on visiting the docs. Push for an appointment with a sports injury specialist.)
Lol you do remember where I live don't ya Pete?
I'm not so sure my docs has one of those lol!!
Tbh I took out a small health insurance so wasn't sure if my best bet was to go straight to a physio, but I think the doc is the first port of call.
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stop running about as much,as our limbs where never made for it, ask any ex professional footballer. Ligaments can be acutley painful, torn at home, and can take years and years to fully heal. Tendons bones and ligaments that we have are meant for crawling and have evolved to the point of standing, and kangaroos cammels and horses for running. You never see a lion or tiger run a mile in one stretch. Take it easy.
Get referrals, more than one, more than 100 if needed and get it sorted out. My knee problems started out with patellofemoral syndrome, then arthritis then the major culprit was found to be TB (you ain't got that) which attacks not only lungs but other 'damaged' parts of your body (it hit my left thigh causing numbness and my back too). The TB has gone but I still have knee and back problems but...treatment has helped tremendously so go and get it sorted out NOW (sorry to shout)
I did severe damage to the median, lateral and cruxiate ligaments of my right knee when I was 20 with a dislocation of fibula and some miniscal damage as well. Misdiagnosed from the outset by NHS ("torn muscle") and despite seeing a Sports Injury Specialist in Belgium (where I lived at the time) the disclocation was not picked up for over a decade - by which time my back was so twisted that I pulled the 1st rib out of position and was crushing the nerves to my right arm between rib and collar bone (not helped by the fact I broke my neck in my teens and the muscles are not fully supported around C6/7). It took several years of intense physio etc to get back up to fitness.
Now I have trouble with both knees and my lower back.
I guess that having to walk off the hill on the day I did the knee (15 miles) did not help things - nor did my getting back into hill walking within days (heavily strapped) but I was in the middle of a Lands End to John O Groats walk at the time and did not want to stop. After a total of 40m after the accident I had to due to the pain! I was only half way through my walk on almost exactly 1000km.
Get it sorted NOW leaving it could impact on your whole life!
Now I have trouble with both knees and my lower back.
I guess that having to walk off the hill on the day I did the knee (15 miles) did not help things - nor did my getting back into hill walking within days (heavily strapped) but I was in the middle of a Lands End to John O Groats walk at the time and did not want to stop. After a total of 40m after the accident I had to due to the pain! I was only half way through my walk on almost exactly 1000km.
Get it sorted NOW leaving it could impact on your whole life!
Basically what they already said below.
Go first to your GP who should arrange the MRI or CAT scan for you.Tell him you are in constant severe pain and he will expedite the appointment.
After the scan ASK for a referral to an orthopaedic surgeon.Physiotherapists goal is to get you ambulatory again.The surgeon wants to repair the injury ; there is a world of difference!
If you are going to use your healthcare insurance for anything, use it to pay for a consultation with the surgeon.Most surgeons do NHS work as well, but the initial consultation being private means you get seen quicker and possibly have a wider range of treatment options.You can still have the treatment done on the NHS.
Good luck with it.Knees are very complex joints and take a whole load of punishment, they need the best care available.
The only other piece of advice is get some walking poles.They take some getting used to but they do help reduce the impact on the knee joints almost immediately.
HTH , Simon
Go first to your GP who should arrange the MRI or CAT scan for you.Tell him you are in constant severe pain and he will expedite the appointment.
After the scan ASK for a referral to an orthopaedic surgeon.Physiotherapists goal is to get you ambulatory again.The surgeon wants to repair the injury ; there is a world of difference!
If you are going to use your healthcare insurance for anything, use it to pay for a consultation with the surgeon.Most surgeons do NHS work as well, but the initial consultation being private means you get seen quicker and possibly have a wider range of treatment options.You can still have the treatment done on the NHS.
Good luck with it.Knees are very complex joints and take a whole load of punishment, they need the best care available.
The only other piece of advice is get some walking poles.They take some getting used to but they do help reduce the impact on the knee joints almost immediately.
HTH , Simon
Good post Simon
Try any and all avenues of care including the fizziotorrist (who do a good job). Spot on Simon with the walking poles, anyone who hikes and does not use them is like one of the round things found on doors, Begins with K and ends with S...they may laugh now but when in their (even) late thirties or after may well say "I wish I'd listened"...I know I do (or knew then thirty years ago).
Another option for those with a bad back, get a 14 month old grand daughter and just play and roll about on the floor with her lol
Try any and all avenues of care including the fizziotorrist (who do a good job). Spot on Simon with the walking poles, anyone who hikes and does not use them is like one of the round things found on doors, Begins with K and ends with S...they may laugh now but when in their (even) late thirties or after may well say "I wish I'd listened"...I know I do (or knew then thirty years ago).
Another option for those with a bad back, get a 14 month old grand daughter and just play and roll about on the floor with her lol
Think it's all been said, but as I'm bored out of my brains waiting for a bone graft to my left hip to heal, I've got plenty of time to type.
The way it works. You'll see the doc and get referred to an orthopaedic consultant, the doctor won't be able to refer you for MRI scans, that's up to the consultant. The consultant is your surgeon, so if surgery is necessary then he'll be the person that deals with you from start to finish. You'll also have a team of physiotherapists who play a vital part and answer the questions the surgeon can't. Well, this has been my experience so far.
There is an anti inflammatory called etoricoxib that I've been taking. It doesn't upset the stomach like Ibuprofen or Naproxen. Maybe discuss it with your GP?
Oh, and take a pen and pad with you all the time. The amount of questions I forget to ask and remember later is maddening.
The way it works. You'll see the doc and get referred to an orthopaedic consultant, the doctor won't be able to refer you for MRI scans, that's up to the consultant. The consultant is your surgeon, so if surgery is necessary then he'll be the person that deals with you from start to finish. You'll also have a team of physiotherapists who play a vital part and answer the questions the surgeon can't. Well, this has been my experience so far.
There is an anti inflammatory called etoricoxib that I've been taking. It doesn't upset the stomach like Ibuprofen or Naproxen. Maybe discuss it with your GP?
Oh, and take a pen and pad with you all the time. The amount of questions I forget to ask and remember later is maddening.
Hello Steve,
Here's my wifes take on it (EMT and knee pain sufferer) NEVER go straight to a physio first always go to your doctor. Get him to have alook at it or a referral to a knee specialist. A friend of her's went to a physio first and she ended up in hospital after the physio "maniuplated" the joint. Don't get me wrong we think physios are great....after you see the doctor and they recommend it.
Here's my wifes take on it (EMT and knee pain sufferer) NEVER go straight to a physio first always go to your doctor. Get him to have alook at it or a referral to a knee specialist. A friend of her's went to a physio first and she ended up in hospital after the physio "maniuplated" the joint. Don't get me wrong we think physios are great....after you see the doctor and they recommend it.
Just an update, firstly thank you very much indeed for all the replys!! Apart from teepee, and maybe bear thrills lol!!
Yesterday evening I was in a lot if pain, so today the wife forced me to go to the local minor injures unit, the nurse wouldn't X-ray it as it's such an old injury, and tbh she's right as it's not a broken bone, and X-rays only show bone, it was a bit of a waste of time to be fair, she seems to think I've sprained the medial ligament, i thought sprains would go away quick but she said it can last months and months.
She did tell me I was stupid not to go see the gp earlier, but it's not so easy as I'm already seeing 4 different specialists at Hinchingbrooke hospital so the knee has come last on the list.
I am going to go and see my gp tomorrow though, enough is enough!!
Thanks guys
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Yesterday evening I was in a lot if pain, so today the wife forced me to go to the local minor injures unit, the nurse wouldn't X-ray it as it's such an old injury, and tbh she's right as it's not a broken bone, and X-rays only show bone, it was a bit of a waste of time to be fair, she seems to think I've sprained the medial ligament, i thought sprains would go away quick but she said it can last months and months.
She did tell me I was stupid not to go see the gp earlier, but it's not so easy as I'm already seeing 4 different specialists at Hinchingbrooke hospital so the knee has come last on the list.
I am going to go and see my gp tomorrow though, enough is enough!!
Thanks guys
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Another update, saw the doc, reckons it's a sprain although there is some movement in the medial ligament. Gotta go back in a week and see if it's any better.
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You did mention it isn't any better after several months? I wonder why the doctor thinks it may suddenly improve in a week.
Ah well, it's a start. Let's hope you get a referral soon otherwise it's just going to drag on and on.
I had similar, with hip pain. I was told I had tendonitis. I had physio on it, didn't help. I kind of ignored it after a while but it got worse and worse. Several more visits to the doctor and I got a referral. X-Ray showed a completely collapsed hip joint that needs replacing. No wonder it hurt!
Jesus you must have been in serious pain!!
Yeah i told him exactly when I did it mate!! 21st December 2013!!
I guess he is just ticking the boxes, if it doesn't get better after a week then he can refer me!!
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