Karrimor Sabre 80-130

[Leigh Robinson]

Thinking of buying this Rucksack:
http://www.awe-outdoors.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=20

Does anyone have any opinions before I shell out my cash or even better wanting to sell me one?

Also, is it an up to date model?

I thought it best to ask advice before I shell out

 

[Dexter]

Personally I'd go for the Sabre 75 and a set of side pockets as I think that it gives you more flexibility for different kind of trips and you can always use the side pockets as a day sack (you need to buy a yoke to do this). Also like having the one big main compartment as I find that my kit does not nesessarily divide nicely into the sizes of the two main compartments on the 80-130. If you think that this doesnt apply to you then go for it as it's an excellent bag that wont let you down.

 

[andy_e]

I think my 60-100 is excellent, and covers almost all the bases for me, from a 60L weekender to 120L for longer trips. One thing I've not got that I quite fancy, is a PLCE yoke to turn my side pouches into a day sack and then it'll have pretty much all of my needs covered.

 

[h2o]

id buy it in green it will be easier to sell on if you dont like it

 

[Leigh Robinson]

Im going to go for the 80-130

Now I need dry bags as my trips will often involve canoeing.

I am thinking of getting a dry bag and putting it inside the 130 litre compartment. Would I be better off with 2 65ltr dry bags in there? Or is there a better option?

thanks for your advice its been great. I am opting for olive bag now

 

[andy_e]

I use a range of sizes; clean socks etc. and dry clothing in little ones and the rest of my stuff in a bigger one, sometimes just my sleeping bag in the bigger one and a few more bits that have to stay dry.

 

[Leigh Robinson]

Can you recommend any that would go well in the Karrimor?

Some seem to have zips, pouches and all sorts. I just want simple ones that work and don't add too much weight.

 

[303Brit]

I have a Sabre 60-100 which i find great for all my needs and the pack is tough as nails,it should last you a life time,the advice to buy in green is sound.
I have a XL(120 ltr?) waterproof bag from Ortlieb in mine which extends well over the top,and fills the whole bag out.I used to use smaller bags but found i was just wasting space in the rucksack,so try to find bags which are wide enough for your sack.Just my own opinion on the subject.

 

[andy_e]

303Brit's advice is good too, I just prefer things organised into separates, but you could just as easily use cheap mesh bags if you wanted to do this too.

Exped roll-top dry bags are what I use, Ortlieb are good too and Alpkit who advertise on this site have great service, do some dry bags as well...

http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16343&category_id=250

.. not tried these myself but Alpkit have a good reputation.

 

[Paganwolf]

Mountain equipment valved bags are good, and exped with the air plug, they are light and robust, id go for the individual bags and pack well, when the air is expelled from the bags they become doughy so you can squash them about to fit. One big bag when your in the middle of a hoolie in the isles and when your trying to get sorted dry and batton down the hatches etc can become a wet bushcraft jumble sale if your not carefull. Modular gives you the option of keeping organised and keep a quick grab method in your packing. Again just my humble oppinion

 

[Leigh Robinson]

All great ideas.

I really haven't got a clue but I know that when I go out I am confident I will have the right gear from the good advice give.

I am thinking about making a list of what I want (its quite a bit of gear) and approaching some shops to see if I can get a discount. Does anyone know/can recommend a good place that will sort me out?

 

[andy_e]

If you become a Full Member here, you become entitled to some very useful discounts at number of outlets

 

[Leigh Robinson]

Just had a quick look around the site to see about membership.

Couldn't find out how to become a full member. I think I am having a slow day?

How do I get this honour?

 

[andy_e]

Click User CP (first item in the bar below where your new Private Messages count shows), scroll down the items in the left to Miscellaneous and select Paid Subscriptions.

 

[Paganwolf]

All great ideas.

I really haven't got a clue but I know that when I go out I am confident I will have the right gear from the good advice give.

I am thinking about making a list of what I want (its quite a bit of gear) and approaching some shops to see if I can get a discount. Does anyone know/can recommend a good place that will sort me out?

Please dont take this the wrong way buddy but you need very little to enjoy your self out doors n bushcrafting, just the basics, most of the year i use a 35ltr sabre for weekends and long weekends and 45 with sides for week plus, your better spending your hard earned cash on purchasing well founded knowledge and getting experience via weekend trips, group meets and from the guys and girls on here before spending ooodles on gucci gear or i guarentee you will be posting in the kit for sale section pretty soon.
A very very wise man i know once said "dont make up with kit for what you lack in knowledge" Its very very true.
Im always up for a chat on bits and bobs if you want to PM me for me number
All the best on your pathway into bushcraft bliss

 

[andy_e]

Paganwolf makes a good point there's no substitute for knowledge and experience, though I am a self-confessed kit hoarder. It all gets used at some point, though there a few items that get used more regularly than others. It very much depends on what I'm up to, if I have to carry all my gear for any distance then it's stripped right down to the essentials and if I'm camping near the car or on an organised site then I'll take more, a few luxuries can make all the difference.

You might want to post your list on here for others to comment on, suggest alternatives or offer advice.

 

[Leigh Robinson]

I will post the list on here when I get an idea of what makes and models I am looking for. then people can comment. I sort of know what type of things im after but I want to discuss each part to get the best fit.

Pagenwolf is right of course. About buying too much kit when you are better off being out there. Its the same as martial arts. People buys lots of books, equipment etc. But they oly train once a week. How can they be at their best when a large part of their training involves watching repeats of enter the dragon?

One of the reasons for buying a big bag is that as a beginner I don't have the skills to find resources out in the wilds. So I have to bring it with me. I hope to reduce kit down over the years as the skills increase.

Also, I will be carrying some of other people kit as I group camp. I mean someone's got to carry the beer and food! So rather than the group taking a lot of different stuff. I expect to be carry some of the camps equipment also.

 

[andy_e]

Also, I will be carrying some of other people kit as I group camp. I mean someone's got to carry the beer and food!

It's always good to be in charge of the beer

 

[Paganwolf]

Space for beer and rum eh like your style buddy lol, you're always welcome out with me

 

[Zammo]

Leigh, I'd be wary of the link you provided. AWE-Outdoors last time I attempted to buy from them were in the process of being taken over and wouldn't accept my order. Whatever you do try and phone them before you place an order.