Jackets (real fires!)

[Tor helge]

This whole issue about little sparks from the fire and goretex jackets comes up from time to time here and I think people are over-reacting.

I've seen loads of goretex over the years around many fires -- even some that pop and crackle -- and I've never seen anyone burst into flames or get holes in their jackets.

It's OK. Don't worry.

Goretex has other issues perhaps, but this one isn't a big 'un.

I second this.
I use my Bergans with dermizax (their own "gore-tex) around the fire and it is no problem.
The jacket has got some small holes from sparks over the years though (pine wood fires), but nothing to worry about.

Tor

 

[big_swede]

I second this.
I use my Bergans with dermizax (their own "gore-tex) around the fire and it is no problem.
The jacket has got some small holes from sparks over the years though (pine wood fires), but nothing to worry about.

Tor

Dermizax is made by toray (the world largest manufacturer of technical fabrics and technical fibres), and is used by other companies as well.

 

[forestwalker]

Vadmal and buckskin is the way to go. Both will last for years and shrug off campfires (we wore our grey uniforms while doing fun things like running through tunnels of burning napalm).

Vadmal, for those following this at home, is the material that the old grey Swedish Army trousers were made from (a cheap quality vadmal, but quite serviceable). One can buy it in various qualities (and price ranges) from many sources around here.

I once wore a vadmal tunic when out in pouring rain. People in modern rainwear got soaked and chilly, towards the I could actually tell that the tunic was getting a bit damp on the inside. Still warm, but damp.

 

[John Fenna]

plus why wear a jacket near a fire, you should be warm anyway?

Rik - I have a photo of you at GYM wearing a huge down jacket, huddled over a goodly fire.....

Sometimes you need fire a jacket and a bottle to keep warm!

 

[John Fenna]

Think about it.

How often do you need a waterproof jacket around a fire?
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Thought about it - about every Welsh meet I have been to!

 

[sapper1]

John , you are a rain god.The clouds follow you to worship you.Although they must have had a rew days of on the last one.
As for a jacket to wear around the fire?I have a waterproof and windproof fleece it keeps me warm and dry and the needle and cotton keeps the burn holes filled.It only cost about £15 and was bought specifically to sit around the fire and catch sparks.So it doesn't really matter if it has a few holes.Now if your a kit queen then you should stay well away from fires and mud and rain,in fact the outdoors completely.It amazes me how many people don't like their waterproofs to get wet,Or their boots to get muddy.The purpose of outdoor clothing is to protect you from the elements ,not for you to protect them from the elements.
Just buy the clothing to suit the intended purpose,not so you can look good.

 

[big_swede]

Vadmal and buckskin is the way to go. Both will last for years and shrug off campfires (we wore our grey uniforms while doing fun things like running through tunnels of burning napalm).

Vadmal, for those following this at home, is the material that the old grey Swedish Army trousers were made from (a cheap quality vadmal, but quite serviceable). One can buy it in various qualities (and price ranges) from many sources around here.

I once wore a vadmal tunic when out in pouring rain. People in modern rainwear got soaked and chilly, towards the I could actually tell that the tunic was getting a bit damp on the inside. Still warm, but damp.

Nja, m39-58 isn't exactly vadmal.. Vadmal is more felted. The difference between vadmal, tweed or loden isn't so big either. I prefer my bemidji shirt before vadmal anyday. Swanndri is nice to. But none of them would be my no 1 choice in real downpours.

 

[rik_uk3]

Rik - I have a photo of you at GYM wearing a huge down jacket, huddled over a goodly fire.....

Sometimes you need fire a jacket and a bottle to keep warm!

LOL, remember that, it was the weekend when the gas bottle in Ted's caravan froze. I love my down jacket, I don't like getting cold, wore it last weekend at a little stove collectors meet













As you can see, stovies don't do the Titanium mug thing for cooking

 

[Big Geordie]

Recently got 2 Flectarn combat smocks from Military & Outdoor for me & Mrs BG.
They work great and cost £8. Best Bargain I've had yet. Call Mark there. He sorted us out with high quality grade one too.
No connection etc... just very satisfied.
George

 

[forestwalker]

Nja, m39-58 isn't exactly vadmal.. Vadmal is more felted. The difference between vadmal, tweed or loden isn't so big either.

I think it is a second rate vadmal (mass produced uniforms, what did you expect?), but still very good out in the bush. But I also agree that there is a number of fabrics with very similar specs; woven, then felted