Is a psk really needed in the UK?

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It amuses me often how some people go through life completely unprepared for any challenges that life throws there way. Winter driving - no spare clothing liquids etc. Summer protection from the sun and heat. Flooding. Life throws curve balls and one needs to be attuned with the seasons and what issues can arise. A credit card and a small quantity of cash is a pretty handy PSK in todays world. Often whats suitable for remote travel will get you into trouble in the urban jungle.

My eclectic mix of skills is my best survival kit. The gear is nice to have but not really necessary. I rarely carry a knife. Fairly odd for a full time bushcraft instructor.
Although I have lots available should i need one.

I guess my favourite survival tool is my leatherman juice XE as its a non locking folder, Coupled with a lighter and my phone there is little I couldn't sort.
 
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Newest buy for me against the scorching sun is an umbrella (Euroschirm light trek) with sunprotection of SPF50.

shopping
I think I saw WildBeare do a youtube video recently where she had one of these....may have been someone else but makes a decent sunshade as well
 
It amuses me often how some people go through life completely unprepared for any challenges that life throws there way. Winter driving - no spare clothing liquids etc. Summer protection from the sun and heat. Flooding. Life throws curve balls and one needs to be attuned with the seasons and what issues can arise. A credit card and a small quantity of cash is a pretty handy PSK in todays world. Often whats suitable for remote travel will get you into trouble in the urban jungle.

My eclectic mix of skills is my best survival kit. The gear is nice to have but not really necessary. I rarely carry a knife. Fairly odd for a full time bushcraft instructor.
Although I have lots available should i need one.

I guess my favourite survival tool is my leatherman juice XE as its a non locking folder, Coupled with a lighter and my phone there is little I couldn't sort.

everyone is different,
i have 2 main kits, my smaller kit is urban/shopping/stately home, it has a SAK, and the blade does get used, my probably as much as scissors/screwdriver, it only has a mciro ferro but thats because i had a spare, the lighter does get used, battery charging and first aid and snacks are the main things used, and things like monocular and plant ID books...

but while you can operate in urban without much kit...and simply buy bottled water if thirsty....that seems a waste of resources, natural and financial...and shouldnt most bushcrafters be able preserving the natural world? why buy a box of iburofen when you have already at home...
 
makes a decent sunshade as well
Mainly that is why I bought it, if being forced to sit somewhere where there are no decent shady places.
I don´t mind the sun so much when walking. I have loose trousers that allow air to move around my legs and long sleeve shirt and boonie hat.
But it is if/when I have to sit still that scorching sun bothers me.
 

"Is a psk really needed in the UK?"​


Maybe not currently but give it 5 years and lets see how things pan out.
 

"Is a psk really needed in the UK?"​


Maybe not currently but give it 5 years and lets see how things pan out.
well i use my belt kit far more than i used to....especially the weather/protection aspects, gloves, dust masks, sunblock, buff soaked inw ater to cool down, poncho against rain storms all these are getting far more use than they used to.....
 

"Is a psk really needed in the UK?"​


Maybe not currently but give it 5 years and lets see how things pan out.
Sure, we’ll all carry what we need to carry as things change just as we did during Covid. That’s no call for me to carry a bloody great tool belt today when a phone and cash, maybe some paper handkerchiefs are all i need.

(I don’t need the cash if I have phone and signal)

Unless of course you enjoy wearing a tool belt. That’s fine.
 
Sure, we’ll all carry what we need to carry as things change just as we did during Covid. That’s no call for me to carry a bloody great tool belt today when a phone and cash, maybe some paper handkerchiefs are all i need.

(I don’t need the cash if I have phone and signal)

Unless of course you enjoy wearing a tool belt. That’s fine.

ive often seen shops saying the phoen payment systems arent working....if you have phone...then people often keep cash in phone case....

a frind of mine pays with watch so he doesnt need to carry wallet or phone while out running, and hes constantly having issues where at the till hes been unable to pay...

i wear my belt and molle every time i visit clients, i often get asked why do i wear an army belt
I answer as your paying em to be heear to fix your compuer ( withdraws leatehrman from belt) not pay me to walk to and from my car....

as im in a city i often have to walk to clients from carpark...
 
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Never yet had problem with phone payment except for cash only establishments.
The phone navigates, informs, and if necessary rescues. It’s not a medical kit and it’s not a car repair kit but it does most things. It’s the nearest I’ve got to a survival kit for survival in my environment.
 
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Sure, we’ll all carry what we need to carry as things change just as we did during Covid. That’s no call for me to carry a bloody great tool belt today when a phone and cash, maybe some paper handkerchiefs are all i need.

(I don’t need the cash if I have phone and signal)

Unless of course you enjoy wearing a tool belt. That’s fine.

My comment was maybe too subtle or too tongue in cheek .
Lets see how whats going on in the Ukraine pans out.
 
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Newest buy for me against the scorching sun is an umbrella (Euroschirm light trek) with sunprotection of SPF50.

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How do you like this umbrella? Which situations do you use it for?
I like the idea of using something like this hands free when I am hiking but of course you can't use it if it's too windy.I imagine the hands free kit is not perfect. I know EuroSchirm makes a hands free harness and Six moons make a hands free kit.
The reviews say that if the umbrella turns inside out in the wind it won't break and then you can turn it back the right way.
I have done some research but would be interested to hear about your experience. Thank you.
 
Used it once this summer for a short while.
Had to wait for the train on a platform without shade so I took the umbrella.
Covered my upper torso but not the legs so I could really feel the difference, my upper body in the shade of umbrella was way cooler than my legs in the sun. And the wind helped too.

Euroschirm claims that their umbrellas are rather storm proof. Have not had the chance to test that yet.
 
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This is getting to be an old thread and there seems to be general agreement that in all cases it is situation dependent. However, I'm going to throw a differing ball into court and disagree with some of the views based on personal experience. Somebody asked for potential situation where a PSK is of use/real need, so:

Where you really need a PSK/FAK is in dense urban connurbations prone to violence and theft, e.g. London, but there are others, and you are a long way from home. Especially if you have grey in your hair.
I used to work in inner London, an hour-half by public transport from home. A Lofty Tin doesn't cut it. (I do have one, from the eighties when I did camping/DoE courses)
This is not necessarily the same as a Get Home Bag, but very close. A phone is only of use while you still have it, ditto a wallet with money/cards in it. Handbags & Get Home bags may be stolen at random (or forgetfully left behind on the transport. Lost Property have lots.).
Plastic cards can effectively be used to stop a sucking stab wound but something better might be needed to stop bleeding out. Do not rely upon help from strangers, or an ambulance or police arriving quickly, even in ordinary quieter towns. (The Zombie knife laws were due to the indent level, often random/rage attacks e.g. 3 guys died sitting in a park in the afternoon in central Reading stabbed by a PTSD crazed migrant, similar one, a couple of years earlier, several seriously injured, Reading again.)

Transport systems can and do break down or get cancelled, leaving you in difficult situations. (This has happened to me numerous times). Is that a survival/PSK scenario, mmm, situation dependent, you can make bad decisions, especially if cold or hungry. (Woody Girl & Disabled Prepper will be familiar with this situation).
A friend of mine spent 11 hours in a hospital this week, waiting to be seen, unable to walk far or drive, he was pretty screwed getting home late at night, and that was only 2 miles tops. Whenever I go to hospital A&E, I take food and drink, warm clothes and a book with me. And small change cash.
A form of PSK/Get Home with some form of food has proved useful quite often. I slept in a bin store once till daylight. If you are tired, got off at the wrong stop/transport breakdown and are lost, or get turned around and lose your bearings. A compass is quite useful in built up areas and estates that all look the same, (especially after a night out, even sober). A torch is good, saves getting hurt, (Falling/walking into things, including fists) , phones run out of charge quite easily and carrying a powerbank is not PSK. Not everybody accepts cards, especially taxis and minicabs, although that is changing. Locally, on buses you need their own "Oyster card" or similar, nothing else accepted. As you get older it's easier to forget routes, and again a compass sometimes helps.-, but having a drink of water/electrolyte helps even more.

Out in the Countyside, getting seperated from your rucksack is much less likely, theft is possible but not common enough to warrant much consideration. I guess most folk do not go fording streams or rivers, where they might unhook their ruck for safety in case they fall? Or have it too close to the fire? Or fall into a ditch or gulley/slope and need to signal for help? Getting to a road is not the end of it, you may have to walk miles afterwards, possibly in the dark,icy roads, in wind/rain.
Consider also, the two experienced lady climbers recently. Stuck on a mountain ledge because they relied on a single rope to bring up all their gear in a single rucksack. Why they did not each have a small climbing appropriate PSK on them is beyond me, pocketable or bum bag. No kit, no sat com, and a dying mobile phone that got one call out. That saved them, but it took 3 days to find them, they thought they were going to die.
So there are some scenarios, with no bears, but ugly delinquent youths. Not sure which is worse...
 
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Its all down to definition, what is a PSK, as compared to emergency kit, or EDC
some peoples EDC contains a PSK
theres urban EDC, rural EDC...

i carry a FAK in a small molle pouch on my belt when out on my own workin
when travelling with wife its a differet kit loadout in a knapsack....

what does annoy me is when some people ( not sayong anyone in this thread) belittle others for carrying things for their safety/comfort, as has happened to e loads of times, and yet they are ungratefull when they actually want use of something that youve brought and they havent....

ive cut myself loads when working, metal PC cases, wires, scrambling around in peoples attics. while i dont NEED a FAK, i could just bleed , its not like ive needed a torniquet, but why should i suffer any discomfort when i dont need to

most peoples EDC are convenience and comfort, and also saves money...

why buy a bottle of water from a train station for ridiculous £ when you have a water bottle on you....

while as Fa;staff says a battery bank might not be in everyones PSK, it is in a lot of peoples EDC....

The amount of anxiety i would cause my wife if she didnt know where I was, i have sevral battery banks,
and am considering getting a satellite messenger even for urban use....

its all about context and noone is wrong for taking something, their choice, they are carrying, if someones survival kit/gobag is a backpack size , thats fine, doesnt hurt anyone, i keep a 40L pack in my car always...

I think that people are foolish for what little they carry, but its their choice, they are taking risk....
.....except


When first responders risk themselves to go out to rescue the unprepared......
 
Its all down to definition, what is a PSK, as compared to emergency kit, or EDC
some peoples EDC contains a PSK
theres urban EDC, rural EDC...

i carry a FAK in a small molle pouch on my belt when out on my own workin
when travelling with wife its a differet kit loadout in a knapsack....

what does annoy me is when some people ( not sayong anyone in this thread) belittle others for carrying things for their safety/comfort, as has happened to e loads of times, and yet they are ungratefull when they actually want use of something that youve brought and they havent....

ive cut myself loads when working, metal PC cases, wires, scrambling around in peoples attics. while i dont NEED a FAK, i could just bleed , its not like ive needed a torniquet, but why should i suffer any discomfort when i dont need to

most peoples EDC are convenience and comfort, and also saves money...

why buy a bottle of water from a train station for ridiculous £ when you have a water bottle on you....

while as Fa;staff says a battery bank might not be in everyones PSK, it is in a lot of peoples EDC....

The amount of anxiety i would cause my wife if she didnt know where I was, i have sevral battery banks,
and am considering getting a satellite messenger even for urban use....

its all about context and noone is wrong for taking something, their choice, they are carrying, if someones survival kit/gobag is a backpack size , thats fine, doesnt hurt anyone, i keep a 40L pack in my car always...

I think that people are foolish for what little they carry, but its their choice, they are taking risk....
.....except


When first responders risk themselves to go out to rescue the unprepared......
Exactly, each to their own.

I’ve had many a laugh when someone asks for a pen, torch, blade having previously given me some stick for it.
 

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