Ingenious and "unlimited" green energy

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Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
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Oh for:rolleyes: 's sake.

Starts of with a miss named glorified weight driven clock (the mechanism isn't that far off those clocks I remember seeing as a kid) and ends up with perpetual motion machines running on pixie dust.

Did you lot ever do any science classes? Perpetual motion is a way to separate people from cash otherwise all the countries who have bugger all oil would be all over it like a rash.
 
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Andy BB

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Strictly speaking, the Sun is a fusion reactor:) However, you're right - perpetual motion machines would completely undermine all the laws of physics as we know them today. (And I've also worked for several energy companies, and no, they don't use PE machines!)
 

pastymuncher

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The closest thing we'll get to free energy is the sun, or a fission reactor which is a sun by any other name.

You never ever get something for nothing in this universe.

Pedant mode here

Fusion reactor is the one your thinking of https://www.efda.org/jet/

We already have lots of Fission reactors i.e conventional nuclear power stations.

The next step from JET is http://www.iter.org/


Having worked on Fission and Fusion reactors and Coal/ Gas powered power stations, I can assure the other posters that the power companies and governments invest billions in more efficient energy production, no one has come up with a "perpetual" motion, magnet powered or pixie dust:yelrotflm power source yet.

Don't get me started on wind power:deadhorse:


The best solution to the current energy crisis.............. use less.

try a smaller T.V for a start, and stop posting crap on the internet using a computer ...........oooopppss that'll be me then
 

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Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
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isn't the OP just a Grandfather clock ?

Pretty much, yes.
Instead of the fancy clockwork from a spring it has a weight that slowly drops.

Its not even close to what people call perpetual motion, it is in fact quite an old way of powering something that doesn't need much power.

Still, if it gives half an hours worth of light from one lift of the weight its not bad.
 

CheeseMonster

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The device in the OP isn't meant to replace all electricity, just provide enough light to work for free so they are not reliant on kerosene lamps that 1. cost them money to run 2. are not good for them to be using all the time. You can get kerosene lamps to burn brighter etc but all of this costs money and you still aren't removing the costs of the fuel.

Wind up torches work but 1. bearings will wear out pretty quick 2. The return is a lot less, I've got a couple and I can wind them up for 5 minutes straight and get 20 minutes. Or with this you can pick up a bag, put it on a hook and away you go.

re: perpetual motion - I got really fascinated by that a while back but if you read actual published and verified papers you quickly realise it's all rubbish. Which is a shame because it would be nice.
 

Trunks

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The only energy you'll get out of that is less than the energy you put in to make it spin. Nevermind the extra energy required to super cool it.

Fair comment, but still quite cool :) now, if it were in outer space...


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HillBill

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So much negativity about these days. You say perpetual motion isnt possible, yet the world never stops spinning and does not have an external power supply, meteors/asteriods and comets never stop moving. The whole universe is in a state of perpetual motion and kicks out infinite energy. Or did that not occur to you guys?
 

mountainm

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So much negativity about these days. You say perpetual motion isnt possible, yet the world never stops spinning and does not have an external power supply, meteors/asteriods and comets never stop moving. The whole universe is in a state of perpetual motion and kicks out infinite energy. Or did that not occur to you guys?

But the world will stop spinning? Solar systems live and die just as we do. As do stars. Nothing is perpetual. Its not negativity fella. I'm happy for my dreams to stay dreams.
 

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