I'm after a pot..

TLM

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I guess, would they polish the titanium pots inside to a mirror finish the food also wouldn't tend to stick so much.
The chemical properties of a Ti surface are defined by the oxide that forms there in a few microseconds after polishing. In theory some Ti surfaces are self cleaning in sunlight, just that cups and pots are not easy to get into full sun shine.
 

MikeLA

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You want something like this

MSR Stowaway pot the 775 or slightly bigger. With that gas stove a round but not too high would be better. 775 used in the past good bits of kit.
 

Erbswurst

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I have seen titanium spoons with polished parts, shiny like a stainless steel blade.
 

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Slightly OT but on a tangent:

Heat conductivity of Ti and SS are about the same, not very good actually. Al is way higher and Cu is in the stratosphere just below silver and slightly above gold.

So the bad name for Ti probably is because of the price, pots are made very thin; SS pot of equal thickness would not be much different. Al would be better in conducting the heat and avoiding hot spots to burn food. The down side of Al in this respect is that often the oxide layer protecting the surface is fairly porous and for that reason sticks to food and is sometimes difficult to clean. Anodizing and closing the pores with certain treatments probably would help, very few of those around.

Again the reason for Cu bottomed SS kettles for everyday cooking is very apparent.
Good post. The Primus Litech stuff is anodised aluminium and can be used for no hassle cooking. Anything titanium just burns food over the hotspot unless it’s water.
 

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I like my smaller stainless steel Pathfinder pot - basically a Mors pot in stainless. It will hold a small stove + a gas cylinder + quite a few packets of dried food (depending on how forcefully you pack them, of course).
Its features of a pair of folding handles - large enough to use while wearing gloves, a small bend in the lip that makes a very effective spout, a folding bail and a firm lid make it really useful. I have also managed to bake in it with the aid of a small green wood shelf / a small piece of mesh (mesh was easier).
As others have noted, it can be easily hung over a fire too.
It’s not the lightest or cheapest option but I recommend it over a Zebra pot or similar for its spout, handles and tight lid.
Hope that helps.
 
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Erbswurst

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I guess a lot of people who think that it's heavy throw afterwards a spare gas cartridge into the rucksack because they would get in troubles if they run out of gas and aren't able to hang the pot over a camp fire.

The weight of the Mors Pot is 313 g, the Pathfinder Bush Pot weighs 360 g (both 1,8 litres), so, where is the problem?
 
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I have a SS bowl with a handle. Tatonka make one and so do others so fairly generic now. I had a SS specialist welder re fix the handle on mine some 20 years ago as that part was carp.
It is my go to all multi purpose cooking pot. I did buy a SS small saucepan recently for cooking dinghy sailing food but as yet to try this as I haven’t been out on the water so far this year.
There is a meet-up on The Blackwater soon (Mid May) so all my plots and plans should come together then. Or be a shambles. One never can tell:)
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Sounds good. Always. But isn't.

You perhaps have to figure out which Socks are the best for you. Because skin can be different.

Otherwise there usually is the optimal construction for this special purpose.
If you can tell us what you want to do we can tell you which is the optimal item for that purpose.

The advice to buy all and everything ten times and in all variations and to try out what works for you is the advice of a seller, not of a informed friend.
And a coffee container is made to contain coffee. At home. It's no bushcraft pot, although you can cook in it of course.
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about at this point!
My advice was to buy a coffee container and see what works for them. As it a cheap option to discover things like how large a pot you need or do you really need a bail. Lightweight hikers use everything from 400ml to 1100ml sized pots so you need to know what works for you.
 

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750 ml is the absolute minimum for adult people. More capacity is better and easier to use.
And everybody needs a bail, even if one intends to cook exclusively over gas or spiritus, because you simply can run out of brought fuel. It's pretty complicated to set a small pot on three stones. To hang it under a tripod is the far better option.
 
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750 ml is the absolute minimum for adult people. More capacity is better and easier to use.
And everybody needs a bail, even if one intends to cook exclusively over gas or spiritus, because you simply can run out of brought fuel. It's pretty complicated to set a small pot on three stones. To hang it under a tripod is the far better option.
I agree and would tend to use a 900 to a litre pot myself however I tend to drink 500ml tea and coffee so with cooking that makes more sense.
Something that has just popped into my head is that from my experience with open fires I possibly want 2 pots so I can cook and keep hot water going which was something we did on all my Scout camps. Hiking I only need to be able to boil water.
I have seen a lot of cook kits recently and people do run with under that even as low as 250ml-ish mugs as pots.
Also bails seem to be a Bushcraft requirement or need as even people with them tend not to use them for stoves.
You have to keep in mind there are people who cold soak which I cannot work out at all.
It very much different strokes for different folks in all of this.
 
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The ultra light trekking community seems to develop the equipment at the writing desk with an electronic letter or drug balance. The decision to use so little pots can't be made in forest and field.

I own a titanium pot, 750 ml, and I'll keep using it as a mug. But I was very glad to find yesterday in a military surplus shop a nearly unused Wehrmacht mess kit, approximately 1500 ml + 400 ml in the lid, and I intend to use this for the rest of my life, because that is simply a practical construction and good size, also for storing food mouse proof.
 
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The ultra light trekking community seems to develop the equipment at the writing desk with an electronic letter or drug balance. The decision to use so little pots can't be made in forest and field.

I own a titanium pot, 750 ml, and I'll keep using it as a mug. But I was very glad to find yesterday in a military surplus shop a nearly unused Wehrmacht mess kit, approximately 1500 ml + 400 ml in the lid, and I intend to use this for the rest of my life, because that is simply a practical construction and good size, also for storing food mouse proof.
Two different ‘hobbies’ requiring different pots. For backpacking, walking and mountain/hill camping - heating water to add to a meal or heating a one person portion of food such as pasta a 750ml or 900ml pot is perfectly adequate. My preference is a 900ml MSR Titen kettle that I have had for about 20 years. I can also use it as mug. I’d never contemplate lighting a fire on that type of journey except in the most dire of circumstances.
For Bushcraft type activists then I like my Tatonka bail handle pots that they call kettles. 1.5 litres or 2 litres and quality stainless steel that can cook rather than burn food. The lid can be used to fry food and work well for this. I’d only use them for over night planned journeys or at more static camps where a fire was practical or allowed.
 

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The ultra light trekking community seems to develop the equipment at the writing desk with an electronic letter or drug balance. The decision to use so little pots can't be made in forest and field.
If the only thing you care about is weight and a gas stove makes sense, carrying a 500ml mug/pot actually makes a certain amount of sense.
Ultra light weight people test their stuff over large distances however a lot of the time all they care about is weight.
You cannot call a group of people who invented and use cold soaking armchair anything.

I own a titanium pot, 750 ml, and I'll keep using it as a mug. But I was very glad to find yesterday in a military surplus shop a nearly unused Wehrmacht mess kit, approximately 1500 ml + 400 ml in the lid, and I intend to use this for the rest of my life, because that is simply a practical construction and good size, also for storing food mouse proof.
I really like the look of those and the Swiss one. I keep coming back to UK mess tins however bailing them would be complicated.

Two different ‘hobbies’ requiring different pots. For backpacking, walking and mountain/hill camping - heating water to add to a meal or heating a one person portion of food such as pasta a 750ml or 900ml pot is perfectly adequate. My preference is a 900ml MSR Titen kettle that I have had for about 20 years. I can also use it as mug. I’d never contemplate lighting a fire on that type of journey except in the most dire of circumstances.
For Bushcraft type activists then I like my Tatonka bail handle pots that they call kettles. 1.5 litres or 2 litres and quality stainless steel that can cook rather than burn food. The lid can be used to fry food and work well for this. I’d only use them for over night planned journeys or at more static camps where a fire was practical or allowed.
Nessmuk was a lightweight thinker and I would argue that a certain amount of what things weighs should be on all our minds.
 
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Erbswurst

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I pack myself very very light, but for me there are borders. The stuff has to be as practical as possible first and as light as possible afterwards.

Yesterday someone told me that his ultralight Therm a Rest got punctured by the feathers that came out of his ultralight sleeping bag. Seriously!
 

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I've been having similar thoughts. I wonder if the chase for ever lighter things has outdone improvements in materials. I see so many stories of leaking tents, bent poles and the latest inflatable matresses with punctures. I just can't understand the point of a tent that can't handle poor weather.
 

TLM

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If after waking up after a cold, wet, miserable, mostly non-sleeping night your first thought is "I have the lightest", YOU ARE ON THE WRONG TRACK. :D Just in case somebody did not know.
 

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