Define poor weather? Almost all tents are 3 season which means in the real world you will have problems in truly bad weather. I was in Ullenpool for a gale, the caravans were all leaning against each other and the shop and there were 2 tents left standing. A Vango Force Ten and a £50 Eurohike 2 man tunnel entrance dome. From a full campsite I would add.I've been having similar thoughts. I wonder if the chase for ever lighter things has outdone improvements in materials. I see so many stories of leaking tents, bent poles and the latest inflatable matresses with punctures. I just can't understand the point of a tent that can't handle poor weather.
One bad night in a journey of 10 is liveable especially if the weight difference is worth it to you.If after waking up after a cold, wet, miserable, mostly non-sleeping night your first thought is "I have the lightest", YOU ARE ON THE WRONG TRACK. Just in case somebody did not know.
This is sort of my point you have to decide what is important to you and what you can live with. I need to do some work with my mess tins and see if I prefer them over everything else.Also if you burn your finger tips because you did choose a pot without bail and folding handle in order to save the 6 g of titanium.
Fair point. I suppose I would expect any three season tent to remain water proof in prolonged showers, and for those marketed for use in the hills, to be resistant to the unpredictable winds that you can expect in those areas. But yes I recognise that there a limits to what a tent can reasonably do.Define poor weather? Almost all tents are 3 season which means in the real world you will have problems in truly bad weather.
I have not experienced waterproofing issues due to weather however poles are a big problem with wind. If you think about it a tent is basically a big kite so if you get enough wind, poles will break.Fair point. I suppose I would expect any three season tent to remain water proof in prolonged showers, and for those marketed for use in the hills, to be resistant to the unpredictable winds that you can expect in those areas. But yes I recognise that there a limits to what a tent can reasonably do.
What makes you think bad lightweight equipment only gives you one bad night?One bad night in a journey of 10 is liveable especially if the weight difference is worth it to you.
That my limit, I would wonder why, however it would not be a deal breaker.What makes you think bad lightweight equipment only gives you one bad night?
Ok, I agree on the tool advice but on bad nights I am not very tolerant.That my limit, I would wonder why, however it would not be a deal breaker.
It why I recommended the Adam Savage tool advice of buy cheap to test it and then buy the best you can afford.
In a diagonal leanto with the back to the wind I think it can take quite a lot, I don't have a DD but similar ones have fared fairly well. It is not going to be very comfy but life goes on.how is a something like a DD tarp in typical tarp tent configuration
I owned an Argos Moon Bag - I have had some of those bad nightsOk, I agree on the tool advice but on bad nights I am not very tolerant.
I think the big advantage to a tarp over anything would be the ability to use it around windbreaks so you could find yourself a nice dry stone wall which is going nowhere hopefully.So here's a question: on a foul night, at altitude with strong gusting winds, how is a something like a DD tarp in typical tarp tent configuration, supported by a single trekking pole and with small opening, going to fare when compared to something like an msr tent of similar size?
It will be rubbish! A right old faff to pitch and would be cold and drafty inside with no solid inner or floor.So here's a question: on a foul night, at altitude with strong gusting winds, how is a something like a DD tarp in typical tarp tent configuration, supported by a single trekking pole and with small opening, going to fare when compared to something like an msr tent of similar size?
Just saw link to this over on reddit. Guy trapped in severe storms, in sub zero Northern Sweden.So here's a question: on a foul night, at altitude with strong gusting winds, how is a something like a DD tarp in typical tarp tent configuration, supported by a single trekking pole and with small opening, going to fare when compared to something like an msr tent of similar size?
Yes. Owned one of them, and in teenage naivety thought it'd be good in winter.I owned an Argos Moon Bag - I have had some of those bad nights
I am not sure it was good for summer.Yes. Owned one of them, and in teenage naivety thought it'd be good in winter.