How should I finish a four-ply square sennit braid?

[clcuckow]

Hi Guys and Gals,

I am making an adjustable neck cord for a hat like this

using a four-ply square sennit braid. Any suggestions on how I should finish of the braid?

 

[stovie]

Could you modify this .

 

[Motorbike Man]

Could you modify this .

Cool link Stovie :You_Rock_

 

[Bardster]

Could you modify this .

excellent - instant favorite!

:You_Rock_

 

[Stew]

I think you probably want a Crown Knot...

 

[Stew]

...in fact, try these articles by Schwert:

Knife Lanyard - Wall & Crown

Knife Lanyard - Cover knots

 

[stovie]

This may help with your knotty problem.

 

[clcuckow]

Thanks everybody, I epecially like the ones that Stew posted. Do you know if the Clover knot can be finished as a 'woggle' so I can adjust how tight it is on my bonce Also how thick is the leather you use? I normally only have the thick stuff for sheath making and my belt loops and where can you get leather thongs for braiding in the UK.

Thanks again every one.

 

[stovie]

I normally only have the thick stuff for sheath making and my belt loops and where can you get leather thongs for braiding in the UK.

Thanks again every one.

leather shoelaces from some traditional cobblers come on a roll and can be cut to whatever length you require. And cheap to boot

ps. The Turks head knot is often used as a woggle

 

[clcuckow]

leather shoelaces from some traditional cobblers come on a roll and can be cut to whatever length you require. And cheap to boot

ps. The Turks head knot is often used as a woggle

Thanks Stovie, I have used leather boot laces before but they are to thick for this project and I don't fancy skivving down the full length of the lace

Thanks for the tip about the Turks head.

 

[bushwacker bob]

iirc Schwert uses kangaroo lace.
Tandys is a good online source

 

[Bardster]

Tandy 1/8" lace is pretty good stuff foro most lacing projects but its a little thick at times to lay well. Obviously you can skive it like the pros do but its not easy skiving long lengths of lace and its all too easy to slice too thin and all the way through.
I stumbled on the perfect solution tonight!

A Number 3 edge beveller! But its got to be one with a concave back. It thins 1/8" down just the right amount and also curves the back just like the pro's do it
Then just run the lace through some saddle soap and you have lace perfect for any braiding task.

 

[stovie]

Very Neat, Bardster :You_Rock_

 

[Stew]

I think www.leprevo.co.uk have leather lace...

 

[stovie]

Found this article by Buckshot on the site. You've probably seen it, but i'll paste it anyway

Turks Head

 

[Buckshot]

Kangaroo lace is by far the best thing to use.
It's about 1mm thick which makes them a great braiding size and very strong compared to other leather.
It's possible to buy a complete skin and then cut the lace yourself but it's very expensive to buy in this country and cutting lace isn't easy, especially if they're long.
I bought mine direct from David Morgan in the States. Very cheap atm for hand cut roo lace. If you order 1 roll at a time it's cheaper to pay the extra postage (say 3 times for 3 rolls) than to pay the import duty. Only took about 10 days to come through as well.
I don't par my laces at all, nor do other braiders much better than I. It still possible to produce decent pieces without cutting the laces.
In David's book there's a project of making a hat band and also back braiding is covered too - worth a look if you can.
He's a link to my braiding tutorial I posted a while ago , Stovie's already posted the turks head link

Cheers

Mark

 

[leon-1]

I would suggest a Matthew Walker to finish off your braid, however it is quite difficult to find a decent tutorial for it, in a lot of ways I tend to think of it as an extension of the crown knot which is also used in braiding.

You may be able to find it on sites to do with nautical / yachting knots, they used to be used for finishing the ends on the hemp hawsers.

 

[Bardster]

Kangaroo lace is by far the best thing to use.
It's about 1mm thick which makes them a great braiding size and very strong compared to other leather.
It's possible to buy a complete skin and then cut the lace yourself but it's very expensive to buy in this country and cutting lace isn't easy, especially if they're long.
I bought mine direct from David Morgan in the States. Very cheap atm for hand cut roo lace. If you order 1 roll at a time it's cheaper to pay the extra postage (say 3 times for 3 rolls) than to pay the import duty. Only took about 10 days to come through as well.
I don't par my laces at all, nor do other braiders much better than I. It still possible to produce decent pieces without cutting the laces.
In David's book there's a project of making a hat band and also back braiding is covered too - worth a look if you can.
He's a link to my braiding tutorial I posted a while ago , Stovie's already posted the turks head link

Cheers

Mark

The Identity Store (tandy as was) in Northampton are doing 25 yards spools of Kangaroo lace in 4 colours for £31 a spool

 

[Stew]

I would suggest a Matthew Walker to finish off your braid, however it is quite difficult to find a decent tutorial for it, in a lot of ways I tend to think of it as an extension of the crown knot which is also used in braiding.

You may be able to find it on sites to do with nautical / yachting knots, they used to be used for finishing the ends on the hemp hawsers.

Yeah that could work. I did have a good site but I lost all my bookmarks recently.

This any good for you? http://home.hetnet.nl/~splits/knots58/..\knots57\0.htm
(babelfish is your friend)

 

[Stew]

This is better...

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