Heart attack or other illness
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Fewer than those who have not had a heart attack because they still do bushcraft or hillwalking.
If this applies to yourself? What else would you do?
I'm sure its on of those things that will necessitate a moderated compromise of efforts to lower levels for a bit - but what is the alternative?
Not a lot else had a heart attack middle of the night on Thur Friday. Still in hospital wondering what next for my favourite hobby. Obvious no more nights out. Never been so bored in all my life in here. Spend most of it on my iPad passing the time in here.
Weird I keep fit always in the gym and eat a decent healthy diet. My lows are easily stressed.
Weird I keep fit always in the gym and eat a decent healthy diet. My lows are easily stressed.
I am sorry to hear this, but pleased to hear that you're being attended to, and by the sounds of it feeling much like yourself, even if they are keeping you in.
I was hospitalised myself earlier this year (bad reaction to chemotherapy, ended up with clots in my limbs, my heart and lungs, blood pressure crashed, couldn't stand up, well, couldn't stay stood up) but the NHS was brilliant, and I appear to have recovered well. I don't doubt you will too.
My only caveat is that my get up and go has well and truly decided, "Maybe tomorrow", and I am tireder than I ought to be.
I'm still me, still intending to be me, still determined to be self reliant.
Having said all that, I was bored out of my tree in hospital for six long days. Never so glad in my life to be home and in my own bed again.
The results ought to tell the Docs why you had the heart attack, and they're pretty good at giving advice (and pills, ye gods the pills, thankfully I have mostly weaned off them) to not have it occur again.
Very best of luck with it.
The forums are good places to chat to friends. Add to topics, think of Spring coming
I'm already longing for it, and the Summer that I'll be myself again.I hope you are yourself again by then too.
You'll get out and about again, just quietly keep busy; the alternative awful
Mary
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If you are recovering then I hopes that you are doing so rapidly.
I have not had a heart attack but have had a longish period with a debilitating arythmia - completely sorted with a pacemaker.
Your question is a bit open ended. Do you mean a return to the levels of activity you were at before the attack?
Even that is a bit fraught with variables. How strenuous are you before? If you climbed E6 then you may not get back to that where returning to a favourite VDiff climb might be possible.
My kind of bushcraft (as opposed to my climbing) was always sitting by a fire telling stories and lies.
A better answer to your question isn’t bushcraft.
A friend of mine has a heart attack at the reception desk of his cardiac clinic. He is an archer and keeps fit. A year On and he is shooting between 50 and 75 arrows at a session and dummy game shooting in a local woodland. He swims twice a week and uses kettle weights during the adverts on his TV.
So much depends on the severity of your attack and your ambitions.
Good luck mate.
If you are recovering then I hopes that you are doing so rapidly.
I have not had a heart attack but have had a longish period with a debilitating arythmia - completely sorted with a pacemaker.
Your question is a bit open ended. Do you mean a return to the levels of activity you were at before the attack?
Even that is a bit fraught with variables. How strenuous are you before? If you climbed E6 then you may not get back to that where returning to a favourite VDiff climb might be possible.
My kind of bushcraft (as opposed to my climbing) was always sitting by a fire telling stories and lies.
A better answer to your question isn’t bushcraft.
A friend of mine has a heart attack at the reception desk of his cardiac clinic. He is an archer and keeps fit. A year On and he is shooting between 50 and 75 arrows at a session and dummy game shooting in a local woodland. He swims twice a week and uses kettle weights during the adverts on his TV.
So much depends on the severity of your attack and your ambitions.
Good luck mate.
You'll adapt what you can do or what you can't - as we all do in some ways
As to no more nights out? - Not sure about that.
Time to get friendly with some local bushcrafters in your area and get cosy by a fire.
Really sorry to hear that but glad you're on the mend.
I don't see why you can't have 'nights out' - I have a few friends that have had heart attacks and continue their lives much as they did - OK, maybe not at the same pace but certainly doing the things they love.
I don't see why you can't have 'nights out' - I have a few friends that have had heart attacks and continue their lives much as they did - OK, maybe not at the same pace but certainly doing the things they love.
I think once you find you have your confidence back, then you'll pick yourself up and get on with things.
The others are right, we adapt, it's the ultimate human thing to do, and we change things to best suit ourselves.
An attachment to the seasonal round is a good focus I find. Life goes on, the world's still spinning out there, you'll spin along with it....hopefully for a long while yet
The others are right, we adapt, it's the ultimate human thing to do, and we change things to best suit ourselves.
An attachment to the seasonal round is a good focus I find. Life goes on, the world's still spinning out there, you'll spin along with it....hopefully for a long while yet
Me too, just over thinking sitting here all day long. I am an active person hate sitting doing nothing. Once out things will change.
We're all different, but most here do well in a crisis, and then in the aftermath when things calm down, we get a bit shaky and reflective. Not quite sure how things will go, or even how to plan for it.
From the sounds of it, you're thinking, "Well, now what ?", and you're clearly heading back to yourself. You'll find a new normal. You know what you want, it's a good to have an aim, something to work at.
You have your life, and you just take it one step at a time, one day after the other.
From the sounds of it, you're thinking, "Well, now what ?", and you're clearly heading back to yourself. You'll find a new normal. You know what you want, it's a good to have an aim, something to work at.
You have your life, and you just take it one step at a time, one day after the other.
You'll get there mate. Had one myself about 14yrs ago, I'm a bit slower but still playing.
I was out shopping 3 days out of hospital! Only on blood pressure tabs now. Changed my lifestyle a bit, ate better, worried less. No point in worrying. Find out what caused it, high cholesterol, smoking, drinking, sedentary lifestyle, maybe you were just unlucky. I had high cholesterol. Meds and diet sorted that out. Still get angina, occasionally, I have a spray for that.
I don't know how old you are, I was in my 50s, life will return to normal quite quickly. Its scary I know, but don't let it cause fear in your future life.
Posative mental attitude will do wonders. You will get better and be able to do almost everything you want again.
I still camp out and happily bushcraft away, ( just not alone so much, )almost as much as I used to. Just adapt what I do to make things easier, mainly because my fibromyalgia is the worst thing that holds me back nowadays.
You'll be back in the woods before you know it.
I was out shopping 3 days out of hospital! Only on blood pressure tabs now. Changed my lifestyle a bit, ate better, worried less. No point in worrying. Find out what caused it, high cholesterol, smoking, drinking, sedentary lifestyle, maybe you were just unlucky. I had high cholesterol. Meds and diet sorted that out. Still get angina, occasionally, I have a spray for that.
I don't know how old you are, I was in my 50s, life will return to normal quite quickly. Its scary I know, but don't let it cause fear in your future life.
Posative mental attitude will do wonders. You will get better and be able to do almost everything you want again.
I still camp out and happily bushcraft away, ( just not alone so much, )almost as much as I used to. Just adapt what I do to make things easier, mainly because my fibromyalgia is the worst thing that holds me back nowadays.
You'll be back in the woods before you know it.
Is that a serious question?
I can't speak for you, but i expect people have more to do in their lives than 'bushcraft'
One day, and i hope it never comes to pass, you may ask a similar question. And i hope, amongst us... we can better advise you, that that response you just offered Mike. I mean serious... thats just the lamest response i've ever heard. Are you drunk? Feel the need for a self importance fix? You're getting a bit weird lately mate.
Mike...It you refer to yourself... take it easy for a bit. Forget what people expect you to be doing. Take the time, so that a hike a bit of bushcraft isnt causing concern. Many people get found un-alived in many random places. My first bit of advice, and i cant stress this enough... Don't be one of them!.
Takes some time off, Cook some good food... (tomatoes are great for heart health, Lycopene for the win, better red than dead. Unless you support Leeds, then its better dead than red lol)
There's no rush to make a fire or get from A to B. There's no rush to die either... Get yourself right. Do what you can, when you feel you can.
Oh i understand boredom. I'm sat here with a collapsed lower lobe in my left lung... Can't breathe properly, but luckily (for me anyway, god help you lot), my fingers don't require so much oxygen. Bushcraft and hill walking would make a mess of me, So i sit here, slowly cooking good food, gaming, and pissing people off on here. (been great at that for years, the lung thing just seems to have made me better at it)
So what should YOU do.
Step 1, Get yourself out of Hospital.
Step 2, spend time with loved ones...
Step 3,... anything you want, based on your own 'needs' (not wants).
Step 4, F..k step 4
Let us know when step 3 involves bushcraft and hill walking again.
A bit ( and by that I mean an exceptional Pot-Kettle-Black scenario ) of a comment coming from you specifically considering a more historical longitudinal observation of yourself and your general keyboard caustic nature.
( see below )
You seem to recognise it in this, ( I understand "Admittance" is the 1st step ) :-
Considering your normal late night alcohol fueled cantankerous utterings and seemingly narcistic need to conflate subjects or is it a pity party you need thrown ??
As to what you do and don't know - I DID become very sick a few years ago and it has affected the way I practice this activity we call bushcraft and many, many other aspects to my life.
For several years I was not active (nor able to be ) in any way and emotionally a dark pessimistic cloud was definitely in my vicinity.
Its all been a ( costly in terms of time , hope , enjoyment of life) struggle and finding the way , implementation of changes and seeing what activities I can pursue in a safe manner.
I still take multiple medication and injections daily, still require regular bloodwork and regular medical oversight.
"One day, and i hope it never comes to pass, you may ask a similar question"
By your standard I think I am thus allowed to offer a comment to what was an open question.
I'm also exceptionally close to someone ( Father in Law ) who had a major heart attack , surgery , survived and then implemented a series of life changing behaviours and activities to lead a far more active life than what they had previously. I've helped them and witnessed what a positive mindset can do vs what a negative mindset can do.
You don't know that I've contacted MikeLA directly via PM as soon as I saw his thread , as to what I've advised, I still think that a more suitable advice than telling him to moth ball the whole thing , cover himself in cottonwool and wait for the coffin cover to be nailed on.
IF this applies to yourself.... WHAT else would you do.
I've made it in BOLD and Underlined it in case your eyes are a bit blurred up for 'reasons' this morning.
If people can practice bushcraft whilst being disabled in all other manners ( because bushcraft isn't a defined activity ) I don't see why a compromised level of activity from a heart attack should reduce one's participation to nothing. Not a very hopeful image or advice to suggest to someone whilst they are recovering in a hospital bed trying to cling to positive thoughts and hope in my opinion.
Lets at least get him out of hospital before anyone starts p###ing on his emotional chips, eh?
But neither of us are Doctors. Or specifically MikeLAs Doctor.
@HillBill If you want to take this any further , please respect its MikeLA thread , so lets not detract from that . - You can contact me via PM as you feel a need to - obviously.
Love the outdoors it’s my freedom and the only time I relax. Still I will see what happens. 62 years old and teach SEN Teenagers which I love doing
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