guyline thightners

[thebushcrafter99]

hi all hope this is posted in the correct place???

any way i started sleeping out yesterday just in our field but i went in as i hadn't proparly tensioned my guys and the tarp was going mad with the wind so my question what is a cheap product i can buy off the shelf that would do a good job that i can adjust quickly in the dark? I WOULD RATHER NOT USE THE FIGURE 9 night eyes as i dont have enough moneys atm for 4 of them so any thing very cheap or something i could make out of wood or a peice of steel sheet and a drill?
Cheers Ed

 

[Andy T]

prussik knot ?

 

[magpiewolf]

You could learn to tie a tautline hitch - instructions in loads of places on the web, like http://www.netknots.com/rope_knots/tautline-hitch - once you've mastered this you don't need to put tighteners on your guys because the hitch will do the job. It's free, too! All you need is the end of the existing guyline and a little bit of practice.

 

[decorum]

There's a sticky on tarp knots ~ here

Personally I make a lot of use of the Farrimond Friction Hitch

Pic from here


I've also heard of people (Teepee iirc) using dual rings at the tarp tie-outs ~ I can't remember the name of the knot for the moment, but you feed the line up both rings and back down between them.

 

[thebushcrafter99]

prussik knot ?

thats what i use to hang my tarp off my ridge line but i have heard of it being used could someone please show how its used? but i feel knots may be the way to go

CHeers Ed

 

[Andy T]

http://youtu.be/Mw3lL-ofBcE

 

[dwardo]

You could learn to tie a tautline hitch - instructions in loads of places on the web, like http://www.netknots.com/rope_knots/tautline-hitch - once you've mastered this you don't need to put tighteners on your guys because the hitch will do the job. It's free, too! All you need is the end of the existing guyline and a little bit of practice.

+1 no need for gadgets.

 

[thebushcrafter99]

http://youtu.be/Mw3lL-ofBcE

blast im at school but will check that out when i get home where it isnt blocked but i think i might have got the idea by goooooogeling "end of line prussik knot" will try it when in get home so that i can sleep out tonight as i know have moved into the hammock more permenatley
Cheers Ed

 

[Teepee]

The adjustable slipped Guyline knot shown here by Paul Kirtley; http://paulkirtley.co.uk/2011/how-to-tie-an-adjustable-guy-line-knot/

Holds with dyneema and paracord and can be tied easily with mitts or gloves on.

Decorums Farrimind knot looks excellent though and looks even easier to tie with gloves on , I shall be trying that this weekend. Cheers Phil
I have used double stainless steel rig rings to make descending rings sets before-works well and will cost a fiver for some 50kg stainless splitrings.

As said above, Prussics are good for keeping lines attached to tarps and providing the adjustablity. Hope this helps

 

[Shewie]

The adjustable slipped Guyline knot shown here by Paul Kirtley; http://paulkirtley.co.uk/2011/how-to-tie-an-adjustable-guy-line-knot/

Holds with dyneema and paracord and can be tied easily with mitts or gloves on.

Another vote for the adjustable, it's all I've ever used.

The mini Line-Loks are okay but I get fed up with the minimum length needed sometimes

 

[John Fenna]

And another for the one described by PK
That is - if I am going light weight ... otherwise I use bungees....

 

[bilmo-p5]

The adjustable slipped Guyline knot shown here by Paul Kirtley; http://paulkirtley.co.uk/2011/how-to-tie-an-adjustable-guy-line-knot/

Sweet!
Not seen that before; thank you.

 

[Big Stu 12]

I use these on my Tarp ridge line ag guy ropes easy and quick to use, even with glove on....

http://www.clamcleat.com/cleats/cleats.asp?menuid=7

even DD do a slection

http://www.ddhammocks.com/products/tarp_accessories

 

[ged]

There's a sticky on tarp knots ~ here

Personally I make a lot of use of the Farrimond Friction Hitch

As good as it gets IMO, although the PK version could probably be done without feeding the bitter end through the loop at all, in which case it's much the same thing IMO.

I've also heard of people (Teepee iirc) using dual rings at the tarp tie-outs ~ I can't remember the name of the knot for the moment, but you feed the line up both rings and back down between them.

I think you're thinking of Trunks:

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94901

 

[decorum]

... Farrimind knot looks excellent though and looks even easier to tie with gloves on , I shall be trying that this weekend. Cheers Phil
...

Try it with a Pile Hitch onto the peg ~ you should then be able to tie off and adjust from the tarp / shelter end .

I've also heard of people (Teepee iirc) using dual rings at the tarp tie-outs ~ I can't remember the name of the knot for the moment, but you feed the line up both rings and back down between them.

>>> I think you're thinking of Trunks:

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94901

Yup, cheers Ged ~ I could remember Pete's input, just not where from .

Idea 2.

Using two rings:

I got this idea way back when i used to hang my hammock with rap rings. Basically, the zing-it is fed, in a very particular way, through the rings so that, under tension, the rings tighten "trapping" the guy-line.

This worked very well and was a doddle to adjust. A bonus being, i could tighten the guy lines from under my tarp

However, i did need to pull the peg out of the ground to free up the rings.


Anyway, there you have my ideas. What do you think? Any thoughts/ideas are very welcome

 

[DaveBromley]

And another for the one described by PK
That is - if I am going light weight ... otherwise I use bungees....

This is the way i do it too!

Dave

 

[jacko1066]

I use these line locks - http://ukhammocks.co.uk/shop/articl...tS0hKpDkxmO8pasgubwn&shop_param=cid=3&aid=16&

For me they work a treat!!

 

[yomperalex]

+1 on the tautline. Easy knot, no extra kit - what more could you possibly need???

Alex

 

[PDA1]

+1 on tautline hitch, free, weightless and easy. I leave them tied on guy lines going to pegs. I do like the look of the Farrimond as a quick release tautline type hitch for a tarp ridge line. Thank you Decorum for the information.

 

[redandshane]

This all seems a bit complicated
Does nobody else jut use a stick as a peg and either tie off at length or move the peg to tension the tarp?