Expedition crew needed and where to post the criteria?

[greatbear]

ive been in touch with trekkingnut off here just waiting for his cv to pop up in my email inbox but it looks promising that he may well be on the team. cheers guys one down with any luck

Trekkingnut of this parish may be able to help, I believe he organises expeditions so may have some valuable contacts.[/QUOTE]

 

[greatbear]

trekkingnut may have a place on the team but still looking for divers. ground survey person, tropical medicine man or woman and another experienced climber/ caver
and not forgetting the guy or gal with maritime historic practices knowledge.
dont be shy guys come on?

 

[EdS]

what sort of "open water " diving. Depth and what they will be doing is essential to know . A basic open water diver isn't OK to do the same as advanced and specialist divers.

Similarly what type of climbing - tree, rock or building. Are you wanting more rope access than rock jock? If there is more rope work ie abseiling, prussiking, rigging of ropes, hauling rather than out and out tree/rope access you may well be better off with cavers than climbers. Cavers do alot more rope work than climbers and most climb as well.

Rock climbers are a bit prissy these days - don't like hard work, getting dirty or having to do walk ins. I blame gym like walls and an excess of boulderers

 

[greatbear]

Hi eds open water diving will be perhaps 4 fathoms at the deepest. so specialist divers arent needed if there is any diving to be done it would only be just a bit of sand sifting.
as for climbing the climber needs rock climbing and abseiling knowledge and experience
i was actually thinking cavers cos caves and caverns are what we most likely will be doing hauling and rigging hopefully.
so yes cavers would be good. cheers eds for pointing out the differences to me. the research has been done by me all the leg work and sleepless nights have been my own the destination and most likely result are sorted just need the team sorting out. which will be a headache i think. but the result will be worth the effort. am not too proud or stupid to ask for help so im asking. if I could fund this myself i would then i could disclose my findings and everyone would know whats needed
but if it works as i expect it will then we may just be making history. and changing history. that is no exageration.

what sort of "open water " diving. Depth and what they will be doing is essential to know . A basic open water diver isn't OK to do the same as advanced and specialist divers.

Similarly what type of climbing - tree, rock or building. Are you wanting more rope access than rock jock? If there is more rope work ie abseiling, prussiking, rigging of ropes, hauling rather than out and out tree/rope access you may well be better off with cavers than climbers. Cavers do alot more rope work than climbers and most climb as well.[/QUOTE]

 

[baggins]

Hey mate,
have you tried contacting the Royal Geographical Society? they often have links to experienced field staff for all sorts of jollies. Also various universities, i think Southampton have a fair few bods doing Martine Achaeology and things of that bent.
Love to volunteer to but i think the Nat Geo boys have better cameras than me, lol!

 

[fishfish]

do you need a spoon maker? lol

 

[greatbear]

thanks for your post matey Ive already contacted the RGS and am awaiting a reply.
cheers Gb

Hey mate,
have you tried contacting the Royal Geographical Society? they often have links to experienced field staff for all sorts of jollies. Also various universities, i think Southampton have a fair few bods doing Martine Achaeology and things of that bent.
Love to volunteer to but i think the Nat Geo boys have better cameras than me, lol!

 

[Damascus]

I've got a sprit level in woodwork is that any good?

 

[greatbear]

only if you've got a laser level on it!!

I've got a sprit level in woodwork is that any good?

 

[Catfish1972]

Count me in! my surveying skills are a bit rusty, but using a theodolite is like riding a bike... and my language skills (including Sea Gypsy) should smooth help things over with the locals throughout most of south east asia. And I know some pirates over there!

 

[greatbear]

you are in Tom cheers and will talk some more about it soon.
also wanting jimmy (tekkingnut) in on the team but he is swinging from trees in the amazon. so he is most likely on the team as well as soon as I can let him know

Count me in! my surveying skills are a bit rusty, but using a theodolite is like riding a bike... and my language skills (including Sea Gypsy) should smooth help things over with the locals throughout most of south east asia. And I know some pirates over there!

 

[Graham_S]

Regardless of the depth, for scientific work there is a minimum level of qualification for diving.
As I recall, it's HSE level 3 (I could be wrong here, working off memory) which means PADI Divemaster or BSAC Dive Leader.
In that kind of depth I'd look at using a Hookah setup instead of cylinders though.

 

[greatbear]

Hi Guys the team count is now five. but We still need a maritime historian person he or she is needed to translate terminology and help in dating finds.
we also needa person versed in treating injurys bites etc.in a tropical enviroment, though in the place we are bound more people are killed by coconuts falling than snake bites in a we could i suppose pick up such a person over there but I dont want to leave that to chance.
We also still need divers. perhaps dive masters as graham s said.
It would be really good if one of the persons coming along was female as there is already one lady coming along and I think she may feel uncomfortable as one lady and nine men.
the faster i can get my crew and substitute crew together the faster i can apply for sponsorship. as il have a good idea of what kit, and which sponsors to approach.
al update this post as new people are added and give progress reports cant name the destination just yet though.

 

[trekkingnut]

Regardless of the depth, for scientific work there is a minimum level of qualification for diving.
As I recall, it's HSE level 3 (I could be wrong here, working off memory) which means PADI Divemaster or BSAC Dive Leader.
In that kind of depth I'd look at using a Hookah setup instead of cylinders though.

whilst a valid point should the expedition be run according to british rules via a BS8848 style agreement, being outside british waters would mean no obligation to subscribe to hse regulations. HOWEVER, that then poses questions of the actual countries legislation, i.e if we are inside russian waters, what are the russian hse equivilant regs that would apply? failure to comply with another countries laws has far greater consequences than not applying british legislation abroad.

british regs for archaeological diving can be found on page 19 of the hse 1997 diving regs and require CMAS2/3 equivilant which is rescue diver or divermaster and upwards.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/diving/qualifications/approved-list.pdf

bs8848 is always a good idea anyway to give you a solid benchmark to base your exped on, it is not legally binding and nor is it enforceable on the part of the british government as we wouldnt be in the uk.... still id rather play it safe eh!

 

[greatbear]

update the trip will be to a maximum of thirty days but may be less.
we still have not got.
maritime historian.
person with tropical medical experience
one more diver.

 

[Catfish1972]

I have tropical medicine experience in the sense that I've experienced plenty of tropical ailments!

 

[greatbear]

well tom thats not what i meant mate as you know. soon get exact dates and such for you mate keep well!

]I have tropical medicine experience in the sense that I've experienced plenty of tropical ailments![/QUOTE]

 

[widu13]

I'm open water qualified. If there are just 2 divers needed, you should aim for experience. Open water qualified is a really basic level. You should be looking for a Dive Master and Dive Leader minimum.

 

[greatbear]

its funny you should mention dive master my brother has just got devorced and his wife/ ex wife is a dive master think i should ask her?? nooooooo

 

[greatbear]

well guys am wanting to get my list of team off and also get the sponsorship underway also got two licences to apply for and all to be under way before the end of the month.
still needing the latter team members mentioned earlier.
I havent pointed out that this trip does not have a guaranteed wage but nor does it incure any big expences to the team as a whole.
just like one or two other members on here I ant got two pennyies to scratch a fire steel on. personally i couldnt even fund my own part if not for gaining sponsorship and fingers crossed the majority of funding.
it would help if some members can supply some of their own gear but the majority of what is needed should not be a problem.
passports for example and someone to baby sit the dog are down to individual members.
aside from being part of what is in my view a very important expedition there is also the chance to see a part of the world not often visited.
but as i said ive only got from now till early next year to get this sorted.
any help would be appreciated guys..