Dressed for the winter

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Templar

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Mar 14, 2006
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Hi all,

As some of you may know I recently asked a question about living in cold climates, in doing so I was sent an article that is quite relevant to this and I think it would be good to share this info with all of you here...

Rather than just cut and paste the info, I will leave it in its original form so please go to this URL: http://www.bushcraftliving.com/prepareforwinter

It is an excellent info for any one who is interested in very cold weather bushcraft...

Enjoy...

Cheers,

Karl
 

John Fenna

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In the days of glass vacuum flasks I always made karrimat outer covers for them - this extended their hot keeping ability, gave some shock absorbtion AND kept skin off metal.
I got lazy when S/S flasks became the norm and I found winters got warmer....
 

crazyclimber

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Jul 20, 2007
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Pine needle tea = combat juice - lol

Also "Another tip if low on water is to mix the hot water from your thermos with some snow in Nalgene bottle and shake it, it will get you some extra water"...
so simple; why hadn't I thought of that before!

Nice find - cheers for the link!
 

Greg

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Jul 16, 2006
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Here's one we used to do on winter deployment to Norway, if you carry a normal lighter as either part of your firelighting gear or because you're a smoker, the fuel will freeze at low temps so we used to attach it to some paracord and hang it around our necks inside our clothing, this prevented the fuel from freezing.
And don't use gas stoves as the gas can freeze aswell!

We also had a pneumonic: C>O>L>D
C - Keep your clothing CLEAN. (Dirty / sweaty clothing looses its insulation properties)
O - Avoid OVERHEATING ( Especially when out skiing / snowshoeing - Ventilate at regular periods)
L - Wear your Clothing LOOSE and in LAYERS (Avoid tight boots especially)
D - Stay DRY (Obvious really)

I hope this is helpful.
 

tommy the cat

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Feb 6, 2007
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I skim read that and it is a good article. I will read it fully later. The idea with the water bottle is good. When in Canada I used a Sigg bottle and bought an insulated Sigg cover,unfortuatly the neck of the bottle was still exposed freezing the 'sports top' making it difficult to drink poor design Mind you the contents were like slush puppy anyway!! Refreshing!!!
I would say try to keep liquids near to the skin in a jacket especially at -25oc with wind chill!
Dave
 

Greg

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Is it just me or is that website virtually identical to this one, it's like stepping into a parallel universe!!:)
 

big_swede

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Just noticed that woolpower (the company which was previously known as ullfrotté) has a free booklet about how to dress in cold weather (which also conviently works as their catalouge, pretty much as the axe book from gränsfors). Can be ordered att www.woolpower.com . Not affiliated nor have I seen it, but sounds interesting. And it's free. :)
 

Greg

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Jul 16, 2006
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Just noticed that woolpower (the company which was previously known as ullfrotté) has a free booklet about how to dress in cold weather (which also conviently works as their catalouge, pretty much as the axe book from gränsfors). Can be ordered att www.woolpower.com . Not affiliated nor have I seen it, but sounds interesting. And it's free. :)

Good heads up fella, Cheers!
 

Templar

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Mar 14, 2006
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Just noticed that woolpower (the company which was previously known as ullfrotté) has a free booklet about how to dress in cold weather (which also conviently works as their catalouge, pretty much as the axe book from gränsfors). Can be ordered att www.woolpower.com . Not affiliated nor have I seen it, but sounds interesting. And it's free. :)

Cheers, mate... very useful info....

Karl
 

big_swede

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Sep 22, 2006
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Cheers, mate... very useful info....

Karl

Ok, risking sounding cheeky, but just how cold does it get in Brisbane? :confused: Honestly have no idea. One australian guy I knew used wool underwear in hot climate and said it kept the heat out. But does it really get cold down there?
 

Matt Weir

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Ok, risking sounding cheeky, but just how cold does it get in Brisbane? :confused: Honestly have no idea. One australian guy I knew used wool underwear in hot climate and said it kept the heat out. But does it really get cold down there?

It does in Northern England Big Swede :) thanks for the link.
 

Templar

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Mar 14, 2006
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Ok, risking sounding cheeky, but just how cold does it get in Brisbane? :confused: Honestly have no idea. One australian guy I knew used wool underwear in hot climate and said it kept the heat out. But does it really get cold down there?

To be honest, here in Brisbane the coldest it gets is about -2c... over night
When I was living in north western Queensland, in the tropical zone, it would get down to about -4c.. over night.

A winters day here is usually around 6c on a cold day with high wind and rain...

Brisbane is classed as sub-tropical...

The coldest I have ever been was -8c that was during my Alpine warfare / survival course when I was still in the Army... :rolleyes:

Cheers,

Karl..
 

Templar

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Mar 14, 2006
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When in Canada I used a Sigg bottle and bought an insulated Sigg cover,unfortuatly the neck of the bottle was still exposed freezing the 'sports top' making it difficult to drink poor design Mind you the contents were like slush puppy anyway!! Refreshing!!!
Dave

When I was doing the Alpine Course we used to put our Water bottles upside down in the snow drifts at night so we could get at the water in the morning, that way if the water stars to freeze it will be frozen at the bottom of the bottle and not in the neck ( just remember to leave some expansion room in the bottle) and the rest of the fluid would be insulated by the snow itself... we even carried our water bottles upside down for this reason... it seemed to work quite well.

Cheers,

Karl...
 
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Best tips I've heard by far on cold weather! I especially liked the tip on adding hot water to some snow, it's how we usually started the boiling of sap at the sugar bush. But never thought of it for my drinking water. Bravo!

My grandfather's tips I can remember from the long time he spent teaching me.. I think I can remember a few..

1) Snow can't stick to Canine fur, make any fur hats or trimming out of wolf, fox or coyote.

2) Wool, fleece, and fur all keep in the warmth, and do a decent job of keeping warmth even when wet. Cotton, does neither.

3) Heat rocks until they're just too hot to touch for a long time. Wrap in non-burnable natural material (I've used buckskin and wool sheets). Lay where your body may need the extra heat (under arms, behind the small of your back, etc).

4) If you need to urinate, or defecate.. just do it. If not, your body has to keep that stuff warm, and you need to strain to keep it inside. That costs calories and energy, warmth, and sleep time. Go outside, or use a specialised recepticle (ie. bed pan, yellow nalgene bottle :D), do your business, and go back to bed.

5) Warm liquids, with sugars, or other electrolytes, can revitalise, as well as warm the body. A good plan, is to always have a pot of water on the stove. Fill it with cedar needles, pine needles, or labrador tea, boil it, and drink slowly before bed, or whenever you wake up.

6) Insulation from beneath you is just as important, if not more important that/as insulation above and around you. If you have a metre of insulation on top of your shelter, you should have at least two metres of insulation beneath you. Spruce and balsam fir boughs work well together to make a warm, thick bed. If you have sheepskins, buffalo robes, or other thick furry hides, lay them under you, on top of the boughs, to make it softer, and less.. well.. prickly :rolleyes:

Clothing, I personally like a thick wooly underlayer, than buckskins on the outside, to help shield off the snow. In -10 or colder (which I deal with most often), the snow rarely sticks to the leather, So I'm usually warm and dry by the time I make camp :)
 

oetzi

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Out of interest, a question to the more northern located members:
Those "pine needles" the author is talking about making tea from, which tree are they from?
I would like to have the botanic name and look whether they grow here, too.
 

big_swede

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Sep 22, 2006
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Out of interest, a question to the more northern located members:
Those "pine needles" the author is talking about making tea from, which tree are they from?
I would like to have the botanic name and look whether they grow here, too.

When I was in the army we did 'pine' needle tree from spruce, Picea abies (Norweigan spruce according to wikipedia), and pine, Pinus sylvestris (scots pine according to wikipedia)
 

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