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Well, there is a scandal.

Lets hope the Government drop all the riot stuff, and Libya, and the economic crisis, and the immigration debate, and Afghanistan and the Scottish Buckie problem and address the real issue of the day........ balls.
 
It really does make you sick that its possible to call it mad in England by just adding a finishing touch, really enjoyed that Pathe clip Robin, are there absolutely no more CB makers here?
 
Well, there is a scandal.

Lets hope the Government drop all the riot stuff, and Libya, and the economic crisis, and the immigration debate, and Afghanistan and the Scottish Buckie problem and address the real issue of the day........ balls.

luckily there are many depts to a government,
 
Well, there is a scandal.

Lets hope the Government drop all the riot stuff, and Libya, and the economic crisis, and the immigration debate, and Afghanistan and the Scottish Buckie problem and address the real issue of the day........ balls.

It's an interesting point of view. My personal take is that if we as a country spent a little more time concentrating on things directly in our control, trying to be a little better in what we do, we would be making the world a better place in small steps.
 
It really does make you sick that its possible to call it mad in England by just adding a finishing touch, really enjoyed that Pathe clip Robin, are there absolutely no more CB makers here?

Sadly, apart from Brooks bicycle saddles, very little is made in England. They source some of their parts from overseas as well.

Manufacturing has all but disappeared from the UK, and let's not get started as to why that is:theyareon
 
It's an interesting point of view. My personal take is that if we as a country spent a little more time concentrating on things directly in our control, trying to be a little better in what we do, we would be making the world a better place in small steps.

Sadly, very little is in our direct control though. We have ceeded much of our ability to do this to other organisations.
 
Sadly, apart from Brooks bicycle saddles, very little is made in England. They source some of their parts from overseas as well.

Manufacturing has all but disappeared from the UK, and let's not get started as to why that is:theyareon

Apart from Brooks saddles, Morgan Cars, 25 saddle making businesses in Walsall, Church's shoes, Ernest Wright and Sons scissors in Sheffield, Emma Bridgewater Pottery in Stoke, most of the best gun engravers in the world etc etc etc. We have some incredible people with world leading skills in the UK.
 
There is a lot of manufacturing in the UK to say otherwise is ignorant. Sorry if that is confrontational but I work for a manufacturing company who exports 80% of its products. It is a world leader in its field and it just gets on with its business no matter what the economy is doing. We supply to countries still in growth with products they can't do for themselves. It is not high tech products neither but applied in a technical manner.

If you look around the country there are many other SMEs just like us getting on with business and making money doing it. Supplying work for people and buying services from other companies. We might not have the traditional big manufacturers like car makers but we still have a lot of highly agile SMEs that still add up to a large manufacturing sector even now.

I'm no expert in the economy but I know other SMEs like us around the UK and indeed in other Western countries and other places too. IF I know about the few I do know about how many else are out there supplying into niche markets and doing very well for themselves and their country? We are the tip of the iceberg I think. If you listen to the experts they say it is the manufacturing SMEs that growth comes from or will come from not the big boys. A grain of sand is not big on its own but get enough of them and you have a desert!!
 
I think your right; I myself have seen a lot of tiny businesses with a global market.

But young people these days want to do `meaningful` work. not sit at a computer and shuffle numbers.
 
Sorry you feel so incapable. I personally feel there is much I can do, we can all make a small change in our own lives.

It's a lovely thought, really quite Utopian. Practically though, no you can't. As individuals we can, say, choose where to shop, maybe go local and walk more. Cycle maybe. We can aim to use UK made products, have you seen the price of a second hand Lotus or Morgan recently? Hardly practical either, for a trip to the local farmers market.

You see, all the industries you mention are very high end, bespoke or niche industries. Go and buy a UK made tent, or an everyday UK made item like a cooker, lamp, fridge, iron, washing machine, tv, dvd player, bath, sink, tap, pen, pencil, printer, computer, soap, washing powder, chicken fillet etc etc etc In the UK nowadays we don't do it. There is no point in arguing with me about this, we are net importer of energy, commodities, everything. In 2010, UK imports were worth US$546.5 billion with exports valued at only US$405.6 billion. We are a net importer, the Government, the IMF, the World Bank, the EU all say so. In fact we are the 7th biggest importer in the World.

We make great satellites, brilliant Formula 1 cars, and wonderful shotgun engravings, whooppee do. We don't make what we need as a country, that's the problem.
 
However to say nothing is made here or hardly nothing is totally wrong too. About USD$405.6 billion out or 42.6% of the value of the imports and exports. Not what I would call hardly anything. Your sourced figures too.

Back to the outdoors related things since this is an outdoors site. Tents are made in the UK actually Terra Nova make some of their tents over here. IIRC it is their high end tents. Also we do have parts made here for a lot of items you mentioned. Yes simple items are better or cheaper made overseas but as stuff moved overseas we have innovated and moved on to newer products and added more value to what we make. That has been a process that started with the industrial revolution. We made stuff then that was high tech then but low tech now. We then effectively transferred our lower tech overseas and moved into more high tech or specialised fields. That is where our knowledge rich economy went. We might not make TVs now but that is now the lower tech "me too" products that developing countries like China can make cheaper than us. If you want to switch back to the past then it will mean lower pay and standard of living. Sooner or later the standard of living will rise in China and other what you'd call manufacturing economies resulting in fewer people available for low paid manufacturing. It is what happened in our economy and will happen elsewhere. What the UK has always been good at in the past is innovation and perhaps that is our future to move on into new fields leaving the old fields for others.

Then you have the service industries around it. Unfortunately governments have favoured service sector a bit too much IMHO. However if you are an interesting SME with good export books then there is money available to develop and many schemes around to help. The likes of Business Link and The design Council have a stack of money for helping SMEs to develop. We've had a few schemes come off nicely that way. We really are not as doomed as you make out Maggot.
 
so we beat India in the cricket but who made the ball? http://greenwood-carving.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-are-cricket-balls-made.html
Seems likely it was made abroad, imported then stamped "made in England"

I would think it highly unlikely since 'Readers' don't make the ball used in the English test matches, they're made by 'Dukes' who still specialise in cricket ball manufacture in England I believe. Although 'Readers' do manufacture the ball used in the County Championship matches.
 
I would think it highly unlikely since 'Readers' don't make the ball used in the English test matches, they're made by 'Dukes' who still specialise in cricket ball manufacture in England I believe. Although 'Readers' do manufacture the ball used in the County Championship matches.

I phoned Dukes and they were evasive and unable to tell me if their ball was made in England or imported. They were able to tell me that they operated from a warehouse not a factory.
 
BTW what is the significance of the ball being made in England anyway if it meets the quality and specifications needed? I know it might have made in England on it on account it is put together here but I doubt it makes much difference to the game if it is made in England. I'd only be slightly miffed if made in england actually mattered these days in terms of quality.
 

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