no need for pm mate i will share openly. i use a standard format for wine and one for cider. once they are bottled or barrelled they can be altered to your taste using artificial sweetners or juice. the cider i mentioned is probably about 10-12%( I GUESS THIS COS I NEVER GET PAST THE FOURTH PINT) but you can alter it by adding a bottle of apple squash to taste or a cordial such as elderflower after fermentation with pleasing results. For a wine use a demijohn and 500g of sugar dissolved in 6ooml of boiling water, ferment out at about 20 -24 degrees transfer to cold place and let it clear, syphon off into sterilised bottles and leave for a few weeks, the longer you leave it the better. beware straberry ribbena takes about 5 weeks to ferment and is probably the strongest wine that i have ever had, try it Paul