Cheapo Ebay Daysack - any good?

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I've had a few bits of the MaxP clone stuff from China and most of it's been pretty good. None of it's as big as that pack though, just small admin pouches and a responsepak clone. The quality of the stitching can be a bit hit and miss, with something that size you might have some failures on the load bearing areas like shoulder straps etc, then again you might not.
For £30 it's probably worth a punt if you like it, there are others like Highlander or Airjet which might give you better service for the same outlay.
 
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had something similar and it was low quality nylon/polyester rather than cordura

didn't keep its shape, the stiching was terrible and the zips broke also found it was sized quite small too

saying that it was a no brand - The one you've linked to is said to be by Mil-Tec - A German company - while they still get their stuff made in China their QC is pretty decent


Depending on what you want to carry i'd recommend one of these for less

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?125501-Tasmanian-Tiger-Essentials-pack

you can always add more molle pouched to it later if you decide to carry more stuff
 
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I bought a version of that bag, from flea bay. International seller at half that price.
Quality is ok but the zips are poor. The webbing is a bit underspec also. But for £17 delivered from austrailia I wasnt complaining.

As corso mentions material nylon and doesnt hold shape well.
 
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i've had a deailing with this ebay seller before- very good! he sells a lot of Helikon stuff, which i'm sure i've been told is Polish issue- they have an American line too branded 'condor' all good hard wearing stuff
 
Hi Folks,

I'm after a new day sack and love the Maxpedition Falcon II, but can't justify the price tag.

I've found this;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MILITARY-PATROL-COMBAT-MOLLE-US-ASSAULT-PACK-30L-COYOTE-/300585379103?pt=UK_SportingGoods_BackpacksRucksacks_Bags_EH&hash=item45fc48e51f#ht_2497wt_1199

Has anyone used something similar?

Simon

In all fairness mate, I'd not have a problem purchasing that pack. Simple reason being, compared to some of the totally shonky kit that floated around 20 years ago, nothing these days is really made to particuarly bad standards.

1st line life saving kit, OK hands up, I place my trust in UK and US made, but kit like that which is designed to get seven shades kicked out of it anyways probably isnt that far behind in materials and quality, the £120 stuff you see on websites away from evilbay.

It's £30, so it's not a heartbreaker if you only get a season or three out of it, and if it does die in a two years, well, at least you've proved that you can get on with that style of pack and that sort of capacity.

My tuppence anyways.
 
Here's a review of the bag, sorry it's in French, it's all I could find but you can get a good idea of it's size & features. Basically the chap says that though the build quality is far from the big name bags it isn't the worst & he's been using it for around 9 months & has had no problems with it & is basically very good for the price, although it wouldn't stand up to abuse......, but he would say that , he sells them.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT71Jc7V2qI
 
Here's a review of the bag, sorry it's in French, it's all I could find but you can get a good idea of it's size & features. Basically the chap says that though the build quality is far from the big name bags it isn't the worst & he's been using it for around 9 months & has had no problems with it & is basically very good for the price, although it wouldn't stand up to abuse......, but he would say that , he sells them.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT71Jc7V2qI

Good fing BTW, I've just went and bought one out of curiousity now, so if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to do a review on it.
 
I have had that stuff.

The zip pulls are made from metal that is far too soft and deforms quite quickly. This then means it doesn't have the strength to close properly. I have several pouches that have been open and closed two dozen times which no longer close.

Military 1st is a good retailer but that bag isn't going to be much cop and if you want cheap, get one with a draw cord or parts you can easily replace as and when. If you can do running repairs it's no problem to occasionally have a problem, if it's a zip which means losing all your kit you're, effectively, stuffed.
 
As promised, review of the rucksack ordered via Ebay as listed above.

First impressions.
On opening the packaging and flattening out the backpack, he first thing you notice, is that the pack is so much a clone of the Maxpedition unit, that they should be paying them royalties. It’s made by Mil-Tec, who are fairly well known for producing- kindest to say homages- of various bits of issue military and tactical kit. Sadly, their homages don’t always come up to scratch compared to the real thing, and I’ll try not to let past experience of their kit invade nor colour this review. Suffice to say (and I’ll do another review with the item in mind compared to a genuine if people want it) that another Mil-Tec item I own is fit only for day/fashion/dig the garden use.

So how would it be with this pack? Have we found a gem here, or is it destined for the gift it on thread? Lets find out.

Once opened out from the packaging, the first place you notice a slight cost cutting is the material; compared to some packs out there, it’s markedly lighter of weave (600d not 1000d) and weight, and some people might see this as having an effect on durability. The good news is though, that the bare pack is quite light, coming in at on 1129g on my scales, and some recent research has shown that the lighter weaves really don’t mean too much of a sacrifice in durability. Also, someone somewhere has signed off on putting a backing onto the inside of this pack; with instead of the common sight of simply the reverse of the nylon fabric, the inside of the pack has a uniformly applied and well stitched in PU waterproof backing. Will it keep your brew kit and mars bar dry on a Scottish summers day? Will the weave be penetrated by sharp objects? Only field time with this pack (if it makes it that far) will tell, but it is reassuring to see it.

With the stitching, this is the first pleasant surprise. A lot of these clone packs at this price point seem to be single stitched in 90% of the stress points, and remarkably, this one isn’t. It’s double stitched in even the places that shouldn’t be subject to extreme stresses, and that’s pretty reassuring indeed. The next surprise - and I enlisted outside assessment of this from the mother in law who was a seamstress before retiring - is that the stitching and thread are of good quality with no uneven spacing, out of area run lines or poorly finished thread ends. All good so far then.

Moving on to the buckles on the compression straps next. These are of no name manufacture, and that’s something that worries me with any piece of kit – if your proud of something, no matter what it is, you stick your name on it. From a Monet painting to an Armitage Shanks crapper, that’s the way of it. Now, while they don’t seem to bad, namely nothing is out of skew, nothing pulls apart and there are no rough stress marks left in the plastic, it is something I’ll be keeping my eye on. In fairness, if they had to be replaced, it’d not be a lot of grief in either time, skill or money to do so, hence I’ll let it pass. Zips also are no name, but they actually seem okay with uniform spacing on the zipper entry slots and no binding nor high spots felt. The pulls are decent quality cordage as well. So, again, they get a pass mark.

The Velcro accessible part of the backpack is designed for a hydration pack, and this again is a pleasant surprise, as it’s actually been well thought out and well designed. Let me explain why. The last bag at this price break I examined (in a mil surplus shop) had the same feature, only they’d got the measurements wrong. There was a space alright, but it wasn’t a pouch at all, just a slit, and to put a hydration bladder in the same would have meant a kink in the bag, as it wasn’t cut properly to take the increase in volume. Here though, this isn’t the case. Someone get there math right. Gold star indeed.

Onto the straps, and this is one disappointment. I would have preferred to see a chest strap on this unit, alright, 80% of the time, you don’t need them on bags this size, but when you do i.e carrying weight or if you’re bigger chested, well, you really do. Considering that would have cost very little money to add, that’s disappointing not to see it. I have a 52” chest and the straps are kissing the sides of my pectoral muscles, but certainly not covering them. The other shock is that the waist strap is pretty small indeed. Yes, it fits me, but it’s on near enough max adjust to do so ( I have a 38” waist) with just a t shirt on. It’ll go on with just a lightweight jacket on, but it’s a close run thing. Less sugar in the brews for me from now on then.

Obviously, as can be seen in the photographs, the outside is covered in MOLLE points, so if you want to hang the kitchen sink off the bag with additional pouches etc, it’s very flexible indeed.

So, a conclusion? Well, I’ll say it again, I thought I wasn’t going to like this pack at all. In fact, I thought the kid two doors down was going to get a tactical schoolbag as a present next time I saw him. However, I was wrong. While it’s not a Maxpedition bag, it’s a quarter of the price while certainly NOT being a quarter of the quality. Mil-Tec, you actually got this right. As a day sack or EDC bag, it’s a great choice, and at this price break I’m far from disappointed. For the price of a takeaway Chinese meal for four, you get a well put together sack and some good quality materials. I’ll probably add to this thread as months go by and I use it in the field to give a longer term review, but am I happy? Yes, I am, and I really didn't expect to be.

So, with consideration to the price point, a well deserved 7/10. Sort those strap sizes out Mil-Tec and you’d have got a 9.

Items placed around the bag to give an indication of scale on the pictures below, which are in the imgur link so as not to crucify the sites bandwidth.

Hope this helped lads.

Billy.

http://imgur.com/a/g8UtM

Brilliant review Billy, thanks for that, I have been looking at the slightly bigger version of this rucksack http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280696461677?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Its a 50l version but although its only £35 quid (28 on there own website and a 1 off p&p charge of £6 so may work out better value if your nuying multiple items) I still want a decent quality bag that I can use for a few days out.
I have also managed to pick up some molle pouches of a kind gentlemen on here also which have worked out to be a quid each!!

Do you think the quality will being the pack Im looking at is slightly bigger than the 1 you reviewed?
Cheers
Steve
 
I looked at the 50l pack as well before I ordered mine mate, the reasons I went for the slightly smaller one were:

1) As an EDC bag/72 hour bag, 50l is just a wee bit big for me.
2) I have a large highlander sack that I use for any more than 72hours out, so it'd have ended up being a cupboard queen.

Saying that, if 50l fits your load out, go for it. I imagine the 50l will be made on the same line, by the same seamstresses as the 35l packs, so I'd be amazed if there is a quality difference.

Since buying, I've done 2 trips away in the woods just using this pack, both of 48hrs, and I simply clip two carrabiners to the strap on the sacks bottom and attach my stuff sack with the bivi bag and sleeping bag onto that, and my roll mat is bungee'd to that stuff sack.

Longest I've walked with that rig out is 4 miles into the woods, and I had no sore spots or heat patches at the end of it.

Hence, when I build camp, that lot unclips and I am left with a comfortable sized pack to take around with me. I can easily get 72hrs of food, cooker, water, first aid kit etc in the pack.

If you want mate, I'll put some pics up of it with the load out I carry, see if it gives you an idea of just how much it swallows.
 
That would be great if you could Billy, I no what you mean about 50l being big but this woud be my only pack I have and being a complete noob its gonna take a fair few trips with me well overpacking before I realise that I dont need the microwave and 32inch tele with me for a night out in the woods lol.

I guess it best to have a slighty bigger pack and not fill completely than a pack thats too small and busting at the seams!

cheers
Steve
 
Think your making a good call then on going 50l if this is going to be your only pack. It'd be a great starting point.

I'll get some photo's sorted out as well.

Edited to add these pics.

http://imgur.com/a/MIn93 just click the link to see.

You can see the bag, and also the stuff sack and sleep mat clipped to it by the black carabiners in the second pic.

In the bag itself, there is everything from 3 days food, 2 litre water bladder, first aid kit, stove, mess tins, water, contact lenses and mirror, 50m paracord, firesteel, swiss army knife as a backup, torch, turboflame lighter, knife sharpening kit, kinfe oil, wash kit, brew kit etc etc.

I carry the golok, seal pup elite and a junglee sahara folder (stored in the seal pup sheath puch) on the belt.

You can get a lot in that wee bag! :)

Oh, and thank you for commenting on the review. Nice to know it was of use to someone, so I appreciate the comments.
 
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Hi Billy, thanks for the pics, it looks really good mate, I have had some contact with Militry 1st today and the 50l version of the pack is his best seller so they cant be too shabby.
Also I like the way you have attached the sleep system to the bag, I had an idea of strapping a snugpak respone pack to 1 side of the pack for round the camp use and then a sleep mat too the other. I guess with your matt at the bottom it doesnt cause any issues as it doesnt weigh too much.
Iv also had a delivery today of 16 molle pouches, mainly grenade ones and a couple of utility pouches, far more than I will ever use but for the price I paid it was well worth it.
Oh and that golok machete is a bloody sword not a knife!! lol my word its HUGE!!!

Cheers
Steve
 
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