Cheap Titanium heads-up

[Shewie]

Terra Nova are selling off their Titanium Cooking Mug at half price.

Reduced from £50 down to £25, or £27.50 delivered.

They`re 900ml which is a good size, I paid nearly double that for something roughly the same size from Tamarack on Friday

Before anyone says what can this do better than my £4 steel mug, it`s just incase anyone fancys treating themselves to a bit of bushcraft bling as this is a useful sized pot.

http://www.terra-nova.co.uk/Product_Type/Special_Offers/Titanium_Cooking_Mug.html

No connection, just wish I`d seen it earlier :bluThinki

 

[y0dsa]

Cheers, Shewie

The offer's so good I've just ordered three (!) - one for my partner, one for her lad, and one for me.

Now the woods are beckoning and we're off to plant some raspberry canes and red and black currents. (I never said that and it wasn't me wot done it, honest to goodness...)

 

[saddle_tramp]

I appreciate that titanium has its place in ultralight kit, But when you look at the popular choices for other bushcraft gear, weight seems to be a long way down the list of priorities. So im just questioning what else makes titanium worth the hefty price tag besides weighing almost nothing?

 

[SimonM]

I have a Ti cook pot / mug and Ti meths stove. I also have the new lightweight DD tarp.

Why is weight important? Cos i have to carry it all up a steep hill to my bushy playground! Plus if I save weight on somethings, I can take more "toys" with me to play with & experiment.

The days of me carrying a 120L bergan + webbing and rifle are well and truly over, so now I take care over my kit choices!

Simon

 

[saddle_tramp]

im not arguing that one Simon, Just that a lot of bushcrafters typically carry a knife weighing a pound, an axe weighing several pounds, and other bits and bobs that arnt in any way designed for ultralight use. . . yet with a titanium pot or mug, youre typically spending a fortune to save a few grammes. For example, how much does your empty rucksack weigh?

 

[SimonM]

I take the rucksac on the chin - Just got rid of (well returned to school when I changed jobs!) my Sabre 60 -100. It weighed just under 4Kg empty!

I have replaced it with a Sabre 75 - I like the ability to use it with or without side pouches and it is bombproof. Not sure of the weight - but it isn't described as lightweight!

I think the other side or the arguement is, I have done without most of my life. I have paid my own way through Uni, working 3 jobs to support the family whilst studying, I like to treat myself to shiny kit every now and then!

Simon

Simon

 

[saddle_tramp]

hey no worries, im not havin a dig or owt, I been collecting some ultalight stuff myself, but with a ultralight walk in mind. I just typically like stuff to be bombproof and that dont seem to tie in with the ultralight way, so i fancy i gotta go for a complete seperate outfit, else its hardly worth the expense.

http://www.backpacking-lite.co.uk/index.htm

that place makes good reading

 

[SimonM]

Funnily enough....that's where i get most of my lightweight gear too.

Like you, I tend to do a bit of walking as well as bushcrafting. Some of my gear does for both activities, but some is only suited to one of the other!

Sorry if I sounded defensive...didn't mean to!

Have a good un!

Simon

 

[Oblio13]

... weight seems to be a long way down the list of priorities....

For the first mile.

 

[gzornenplat]

I think I'm probably in a minority here, but my reasons for being interested in bushcrafting
are not so I can spend the weekend living in a debris-shelter but so that I have alternatives
if my high-tech kit should fail or get lost or be unusable for whatever reason.

It also means that, given a weight limit, I can carry more stuff (and I like my luxuries!).

Going into the woods for a weekend or week, you probably aren't going to be walking *that*
far. I've walked across Spain a couple of times (once from East to West, once from South
to North) and done a couple of other reasonably long-distance walks. and keeping the
weight down and the comfort up makes a lot of difference to how happy you feel.

The skills we are all interested in here are more of a backup than an end in themselves for
me - at least, the more specialised ones like shelter-building and fire-drills are. After a full
day's walking, you want a meal and a bed quickly, so a hammock and a tarp beats building
a shelter from what is around you any day, especially if you are crossing somewhere that
isn't littered with sticks and leaves or much natural cover.

The basic skills (like finding berries and mushrooms, and tying knots, and hobo stoves
etc) keep the weight down.

And so does titanium, Goretex, silnylon and dyneema. You do need a bit of money for
it, though.

Ian

 

[saddle_tramp]

The basic skills (like finding berries and mushrooms, and tying knots, and hobo stoves
etc) keep the weight down.

lol, so how does a hobo stove keep the weight down?

 

[Squidders]

Firstly, that's a really good price... cheers for heads up.

Secondly, the whole light weight issue highlights an issue with the use of "bushcraft" as a term... the prolem is that every point of view is right but that humans generally think because they are right, others must be wrong (to some degree).

Bushcraft can be practiced while travelling light or when at a fixed base camp... As has been said, shelter building is all well and good but if you're going to invest a full day to make a really good shelter you really want to stay there to benefit from it or it's just a monumental waste of effort.

Also titanium is still considered by many to be a bit new... not like good old steel or cast iron so there's an acceptance problem especially as it's only real benefit is lighter weight. That said all this is deeply personal and individual. I like titanium kit... even though the only stuff I have is a few sporks.

I don't think there is a benefit more than there is a benefit to having a blonde or brunette girlfriend... it's just taste... it's just a hobby.

 

[andybysea]

''I don't think there is a benefit more than there is a benefit to having a blonde or brunette girlfriend''

The benefit would be to have both!

 

[saddle_tramp]

kinda partial to a fiery redhead meself like

 

[gzornenplat]

lol, so how does a hobo stove keep the weight down?

Well compared to a Coleman stove and half a gallon of petrol, two empty tin cans stuck
together to make a wood-burner is almost helium!

 

[saddle_tramp]

Well compared to a Coleman stove and half a gallon of petrol, two empty tin cans stuck
together to make a wood-burner is almost helium!

well yeah, compared to cookers and carrying fuel it saves weight, but if your cooking with simple fire, its questionable whether you need a specific container to build your fire in . . .

ive made a few myself, enjoyed making them, and been quite proud of the finished item. but il probably never actually use it lol. cos IMO its an unecessary complication

but each to their own innit

 

[rik_uk3]

apart from the excessive price, what can you cook in a pot that big? I love cooking either at home or when camping but a 900ml pot /mug is just too small IMHO

I've got some chocolate tea pots for sale, only £30 delivererd

 

[gzornenplat]

I've got some chocolate tea pots for sale, only £30 delivererd

How much do they weigh?

 

[rik_uk3]

Well compared to a Coleman stove and half a gallon of petrol, two empty tin cans stuck
together to make a wood-burner is almost helium!

Half a litre of paraffain will last me at least a weekend so not heavy, a stove like a Nova or Omnifuel is often lighter than a hobo setup, and the liquid fuel stoves can be used anywhere, boil fast, simmer well.

I've literally "saved the bacon" of several forum members here by cooking their breakfast when they could not get wet wood to burn easily in the morning so don't knock liquid fuel stoves, they do a grand job and don't limit you to camping in the woods, you can enjoy the glory of open land and still eat well

 

[saddle_tramp]

I've got some chocolate tea pots for sale, only £30 delivererd

do you take paypal?