Are you implying that Siberianfury and Chris Caine are one and the same? (Funny how you never see them together)
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Are you implying that Siberianfury and Chris Caine are one and the same? (Funny how you never see them together)
Most flights from the UK only allow 20kg of baggage now... If you're off to the jungle It would eat a big hole in your allowance. If you think you may need a parang the best bet is to buy a native one for about £5 locally and be assured it's been made by the people who's very lives depend on a good knife sutable for the terrain you're travelling in.
Are you implying that Siberianfury and Chris Caine are one and the same? (Funny how you never see them together)
I'm not implying anything till I've seen a solicitor. 
He may be a perfect gentleman for all I know, never met the bloke or had owt off him.
while I've never seen one of the proper CC survival tools, I do know a chap who is aquainted with mr caine, and has made his own blade (knife? machete? chopper?) to a simmilar pattern.
seems effective enough, and certainly seems to do a better job than the army issue machete (looks like a martindale golok, but may not be) at pretty much everything. did seem a bit weighty, but that comes with the territory.
personally, I wouldn't pay 300 quid for one, I would take a good look at a production golok (I think condor do one), a kukri or at making my own. but then, I try not to spend huge amounts on what are, when it comes down to it, tools.
seems effective enough, and certainly seems to do a better job than the army issue machete (looks like a martindale golok, but may not be) at pretty much everything. did seem a bit weighty, but that comes with the territory.
personally, I wouldn't pay 300 quid for one, I would take a good look at a production golok (I think condor do one), a kukri or at making my own. but then, I try not to spend huge amounts on what are, when it comes down to it, tools.
Lol, was just thinking that.
Billhook(£15 inc postage), Aldi saw(£2.49), Draw knife(£12.50), and pick your Mora(£10 or under). Can do anything, and still have £200ish for more kit.
Just as a point(Start digging hole) it is not a survival tool, because it does not do one of the jobs needed. For want of a better way of saying it, not very tacitcal is it?
Chris and Lofty are very good friends (or were as far as i'm aware) so i can see that. I couldn't see Chris going behind his mentor's back.
Still an expensive piece of metal though
Not quite sure what has been gained by the production of this clone, maybe an attempt to swell CC's bank balance?
It certainly took a sizeable chunk out of his reputation though.
Certainly not for me anyway, not my sort of thing.
It certainly took a sizeable chunk out of his reputation though.
Certainly not for me anyway, not my sort of thing.
To be honest i don't think i'ts a rip off of anything every knife that has ever been made has been copied to some degree or another or eventually will be.
I actually have one bought it last month after seeing the video's on you tube and using chris's on one of Chris Caine's 3 day courses it's a good piece of kit very well made, edge retention is really good and you be suprised what you can do with it once you get used to it.
The customer services were really good I ordered it from his website and was kept upto date every week via email as to what stage the CC survival tool was at in the handmade process it arrived well package with a certificate signed by Chris Caine with the number of the parang.
The standard sheath it came with was good quality 5mm thick leather and i up graded to the handmade sheath which is excellent i'm very happy with it no complaints the knife maker has done a really good job.
Chris is a really nice guy had time for everyone on the course and had some really interesting and funny stories to tell around the fire and wish him well with his new school!
I actually have one bought it last month after seeing the video's on you tube and using chris's on one of Chris Caine's 3 day courses it's a good piece of kit very well made, edge retention is really good and you be suprised what you can do with it once you get used to it.
The customer services were really good I ordered it from his website and was kept upto date every week via email as to what stage the CC survival tool was at in the handmade process it arrived well package with a certificate signed by Chris Caine with the number of the parang.
The standard sheath it came with was good quality 5mm thick leather and i up graded to the handmade sheath which is excellent i'm very happy with it no complaints the knife maker has done a really good job.
Chris is a really nice guy had time for everyone on the course and had some really interesting and funny stories to tell around the fire and wish him well with his new school!
seanmulhall on youtube does an interesting review. He appears quite friendly with Chris Caine, but bearing in mind he's comparing it to his own knife seems quite impressed.
I regularly lose enough blood to Mora and Opinel through involuntary donations, to avoid anything big enough to take a limb off. I'd probably want some super glue, duct tape and a bag for the bits left over with something that size.
I regularly lose enough blood to Mora and Opinel through involuntary donations, to avoid anything big enough to take a limb off. I'd probably want some super glue, duct tape and a bag for the bits left over with something that size.
Yes, I saw that review, he preferred it to his own. I wonder what would happen if he did a review comparing the LW verses the CC?
I am sure Sean would give a fair review, he a very good reviewer in my opinion.
I am sure Sean would give a fair review, he a very good reviewer in my opinion.
Sean does good reasonable reviews and i quite like the honesty of it for a change as usually people tend to put a bit of bias into a test favoring their own prouduct anyway have a look at this i found it quite interesting once you get passed the 22sec advert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSsrRYYLT38
Basically it's large knives in a field test plus a small forest axe!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSsrRYYLT38
Basically it's large knives in a field test plus a small forest axe!
people pay £200 to a lot more for a much smaller knife if its woodlore shaped thats a tool you can make from £5 of material and a few hours filing but people pay and nobody questions the prices cartainly not in the £100 - £300 range even second hand
we certainly dont buy fron the people that use them day in day out for a lot less (the scandinavians ) well some maybe
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Duncan
Could you prepare a rabbit or deer with your Silky though or cut a staright line in canvass or even cut string or rope with it without making a mess?
You are now talking about a specialist tool.. a wood saw. Remember these are technically "knives" and multi purpose, so we have to give them a break
You are now talking about a specialist tool.. a wood saw. Remember these are technically "knives" and multi purpose, so we have to give them a break
people pay £200 to a lot more for a much smaller knife if its woodlore shaped thats a tool you can make from £5 of material and a few hours filing but people pay and nobody questions the prices cartainly not in the £100 - £300 range even second hand
we certainly dont buy fron the people that use them day in day out for a lot less (the scandinavians ) well some maybe
ATB
Duncan
Duncan actual raises an interesting point, I wonder how many people do actual use there £200 plus knifes in the field?
I fall in the why pay the money camp, it makes no sense to me. If I was going to part with that sort of cash, it would be to a maker, for a custom, a perfect for me tool. Which if you think about it, is what a Woodlore is, for Mr Mears.
In fact, it would be interesting to see what a native parang user thought of this blade? Do all of the little tricks, and adjusts work with it? Not sure I would want to try, and support that blade with my toes for a start.
My understanding is that a knife that claims the 'Survival' title has to do all tasks. It might not be the best tool for the job, but it can do them all. The survival knife arguement is that a big knife can do small jobs, but a small knife cannot do big jobs.
You could argue that the difference between survival and bushcraft is like an amatuer, and a professional doing a job. The amatuer like someone in a survival situation has to make do with what they have. The professional like the bushcrafter goes to do the job with the right tool, performing the task for 1000+ time. Which is why the bushcraft tool kit starts at three tools. Also explains why a bushcrafter would spend more on the Woodlore style blade, it is going to be used the most. You spend more money on the tools you use the most, or you learn the best brand and stick with it.
Are you implying that Siberianfury and Chris Caine are one and the same? (Funny how you never see them together)
you caught me, im also Tim noble, daimn.
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Thanks for the link MJ!
Just look at the energy expended in this video! absurd in any kind of scenario let alone one that involves real survival.
My Silky would have cut that log in half the time and wayyyy less energy - and I would not 'need a break' and be out of breath as these people say and are in their vid!!
How lame- really..
I think your looking at the video in the wrong way i see it as a field test that demostrates their chopping ability, edge retention & durability.
In a survival situation you would let the weight of the tool do the work expending far less energy.
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