Camping gaz Globetrotter

[bigbear]

Hello,

I have recently acquired one such and it seems to need converting to run on modern cartridges, does anyone have any experience as I am a bit nervous about fiddling with a gas stove ?

Regards

Bugbear

 

[Pattree]

Get your bum over to the Classic Camp Stove Forum. The guys there are so very helpful. One of them converted a Coleman lamp to meths and gave it to me!!!!!

Be careful! Stove and lamp collection can be contagious and addictive. There is no cure.

 

[Nice65]

Wanting to see which stove it is took me straight to this article on them, and a method of converting to run on standard gas cartridges. No idea if this helps.

Camping Gaz Globetrotter Stove: 35 Year Review - PopUpBackpacker

35 year review of the Gaz Globetrotter stove — plus how to convert the Globetrotter stove to accept modern canisters.

popupbackpacker.com

 

[crosslandkelly]

Will have to keep an eye on theis thread. I still have my old Globetrotter and would like to convert it. I still use the pots with my old Bleuet, but they don't stack together well.

 

[Pattree]

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[crosslandkelly]

Camping Gaz Globetrotter Stove: 35 Year Review - PopUpBackpacker

35 year review of the Gaz Globetrotter stove — plus how to convert the Globetrotter stove to accept modern canisters.

popupbackpacker.com

Well thanks to Nice65s' link, I spent a productive hour taking apart my Globetrotter stove (nothing to lose I thought), and an old knockoff MSR pocket rocket. Seems that the threads are standard so all went together very easily. I just need a 100g gas canister, then the whole lot will fit back in the pots.

 

[Tengu]

Ive got those pots.

 

[armie]

I still have some original 106 cartridges with my little globetrotter. It's great fun to use it.

 

[Pattree]

I’m pretty sure that there are ways and adaptors for refilling disposable canisters. I’ve watched it being done (by a stove expert in the open air at a camp site)

 

[Tengu]

Not these, they are the piercing tins.

 

[birchwood]

Someone devised a way of refilling the disposable cylinders in situ . Remove the jet, find a bolt with the same thread, drill a hole down the middle. I think they soldered a lindal valve on top. I don’t solder so going to try with a tube.
Fuel up by opening the control knob - close when nearly full. Put the receiving canister/ stove in the fridge first.

 

[Pattree]

I have John’s permission to cross post this:

Keep watching. I’ll transfer the photos one by one. There are a lot!

In the 'Lounge' I said I'd located some Globetrotter gas cartridges Globetrotter GT106 carts but they're a limited resource to dole out to CCS chums.

So, a refuelling rig, enabling the Globetrotter cartridge to be refilled in situ, by unscrewing the jet and screwing the refuelling rig in place.

With a bayonet cartridge adaptor from ebay (China) sources, I'm using the cheapest source of butane. If I wanted to give the Globetrotter a bit of extra cold-weather capability, I'd refuel from a screw-fit butane/propane mix cartridge


The 'business end' of the flexi hose is a Campingaz jet (from a Bleuet 206 - fits the Globetrotter and a stove more commonly for sale on ebay than the Globetrotter - probably easier and cheaper than sourcing an CG spare jet). The jet's silbrazed to the brass fitting on the flexi hose, which had to be removed from the hose for the silbrazing obviously, then re-mounted on the hose and crimped to secure it
Simple job to remove the Globetrotter jet nipple and screw the refuelling rig in place


Before installing an empty gas cartridge, I've smeared a bit of silicon grease on this seal. Seems like a good idea to keep it in good shape when I know it'll be some time before I remove the cartridge again to check on the seal
Refuelling. The Globetrotter cartridge was popped in a freezer for quarter-of-an-hour and the donor cartridge in hot water for a couple of minutes. The temperature differential creates an imbalance of vapour pressure between donor and receiving cartridge and with the valve on the stove opened and the control valve at the donor cartridge end opened the transfer of gas is quick and can be heard
I've found that it's not necessary to measure the weight of gas transferred, since an equilibrium is reached where the receiving cartridge takes enough and no more by the time the pressure in both carts has equalised. That point can be heard (ear up against the donor cartridge). It's simply a matter then of closing the stove and donor control valves and unscrewing the rig from the stove. The stove jet nipple is then replaced and ...
Something to note about the Globetrotter jet nipple. It's not easy to remove because of a concentric ring moulding on the aluminium stove body. Here I've machined the raised rim down to get better access to the flats of the jet to remove and replace it after refuelling

WARNING.
John from Classic Camp Stoves is a consummate stove engineer. Nothing daunts him. For “Simple” read “Not easy but possible with patience!”

This may seem involved but once you’ve made your adapter from a doner stove your cartridges can be refilled over and over again - I’ve watched him do it.

I take no responsibility for wrecked kit or launched work sheds!!!!!!

 

[Tengu]

And, observe, it does not affect the integrity of the original seal, as it does not touch it.

 

[Stew]

Looks great for a stove nerd but there are better options for the rest of us.

 

[Tengu]

Yes, but if you have one and want to use it its a good plan.

why replace if you can keep on using?

 

[Pattree]

I have one that I don’t want. I’ve got a couple of full (disposable) cartridges too.
Unfortunately stove and cartridges are the next size up about as tall as the diameter. Not CG. There’s a green one and a silver one. They feel full and no holes.