bush blades

[British Red]

Hi Red

Now I'm only a simple country boy but I've followed a few of your threads and have seen some of the photographs that you have posted you obviously have a good eye for detail and appreciate our flora and fauna. For you to do that and to continue to do it you must find some satisfaction in the process and subject, if this makes you feel good are you not being spiritually satisfied.

Absolutely I enjoy it - thats why I do it . However what I try to remind myself is that other people enjoy other things. Some like horse riding or flower arranging or self sufficiency or cake decorating (or something they call survival come to that). I am sure they are equally satisfying to their participants. I guess my attitude is a "live and let live" one. I have my ways of persuing my hobbies and interests, other people have theirs. Neither is more righteous or important or significant.

I dunno - I just think there are more important things that denigrating others. I wasn't really adressing this thread since I haven't perused that link in any detail. More a bit of a trend I guess. To me being outdoors is the fun aprt - who cares what you call it or what type of cutting tool you prefer?

Red

 

[TheGreenMan]

...Cheers for this, always eager to learn ...

No problem

...Looks like me when I was younger, was your dad in the navy :tapedshut ...

Erm, yes...Bro, we meet at last!

...I'm actually German :yikes: :sad6: :sulkoff:

Actually, a section of the family were from Frankfurt am Main, so you and I are related

It's also a point of interest that in that photo, I'm wearing an Ullfrotte-like zip necked base layer, a wool mid layer and a wool outer layer. I was clearly ahead of my time, even then

Cheers,
Paul.

 

[TheGreenMan]

...No "good guys" or "bad guys" just a nasty case of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and lots of needless death. Great 3 dimensional characters...

I can remember a TV documentary from about 20 years ago (perhaps Channel4) that was made about US veterans who couldn't readjust to society upon their return to 'civilisation'. These guys were living permanently out in the woods, and from what I remember their living arrangements were almost identical to those of today's hobbyist bushcrafter.

It was a very touching piece of film making.

Best regards,
Paul.

 

[TheGreenMan]

The man has a right to his opinions - especially about knives - but publishing the A**hole files? He is setting himself up to be laughed at!

I'm going to have to go and read those files, they sound like a fun read, thanks, John

Best regards,
Paul.

 

[pothunter]

Hi Red

To miss quote Ortega y Gasset :

'Hardly anyone in this country needs bushcraft after all, which culmination ultimately justifies going through the motions? Is it the contest, the zero sum of achievement or failure, the thrill of success, the agony of defeat?Is it reinforcement of ego, a way to feel good about oneself, to hold ones head high among ones peers? Or simply to do something because one likes doing it?'

I reckon the above is well worth considering when next watching bush TV.

Have to acknowledge Dave Sigurslid the 'Campfire Philosopher' for the above.

Pothunter.

 

[Grego]

A man after my own heart a breath of fresh air. I agree with every word.

Of course I meant Red

 

[deepcmonkey]

Just read the article, I guess it was written in America. To be honest it is not a review of anything just this guys opinion which he is intitled to.

I have 3 bush blades as he calls them and they all look like tools not weapons. There is no need IMHO to carry a large rambo type knife in the UK and a woodlore clone etc..is perfectly fine for me.

As for being scared to use it no I am not but I will take care of them, the way this guy is going on his knife would be wrecked in no time and wil be of no use what so ever.

horses for courses really

 

[cariboo]

I met this guy about 4 or 5 years ago. He bought a knife from us. Aki and I were showing our knives and carving tools at the annual war canoe races in Agassiz, British Columbia. Sto'lo Nation's event. Cool people.

He was a big fellow. A. biker. A white guy like me just watching the races.
I talked to him for awhile. Surprisingly gentle, friendly type, sounds bizarre, as he was a tough-looking character, but he was kind of a warm personable guy.

It is true that big bush blades come in handy here. He does have a lot of opinions and is not afraid of stating them. I like that.

The knife we made is, from left to right, the third one. Tiger maple with a moose antler cap and lanyard hole.

It looks a bit worn. Nice to know he's using it.

Scott.

 

[Shinken]

Scott you are right mate,

how nice the guy is, is more important than his harmless opinions.

So we really should discus his opinions not his character as we haven't really met him.

clearly a lot of what he says is wrong though

 

[malente]

Hi Cariboo,

Cheers for the info!

Maybe we can invite the chap here that he can participate in our discussion? What do you guys think?

OT: I've been to Canada once, to BC, and did the West Coast Trail on Vancouver Island, and that was just fantastic! Hope to go back to BC for an extended canoeing/ backcountry trip as soon as I can.

Do you ever venture out into the Great Bear Rainforest? That looks like an amazing place!

Mike

I met this guy about 4 or 5 years ago. He bought a knife from us. Aki and I were showing our knives and carving tools at the annual war canoe races in Agassiz, British Columbia. Sto'lo Nation's event. Cool people.

He was a big fellow. A. biker. A white guy like me just watching the races.
I talked to him for awhile. Surprisingly gentle, friendly type, sounds bizarre, as he was a tough-looking character, but he was kind of a warm personable guy.

It is true that big bush blades come in handy here. He does have a lot of opinions and is not afraid of stating them. I like that.

The knife we made is, from left to right, the third one. Tiger maple with a moose antler cap and lanyard hole.

It looks a bit worn. Nice to know he's using it.

Scott.

 

[TheGreenMan]

...Maybe we can invite the chap here that he can participate in our discussion? What do you guys think? ...

I think that would be a very nice idea

Best regards,
Paul.

 

[TheGreenMan]

...I talked to him for awhile. Surprisingly gentle, friendly type, sounds bizarre, as he was a tough-looking character, but he was kind of a warm personable guy...

He sounds very like the veterans I mentioned in post #43.

...The knife we made is...It looks a bit worn. Nice to know he's using it...

Best regards,
Paul.

 

[cariboo]

I agree Shinken, opinions are second rate - it is what a person does that is important.
Expressing opinions on the internet is an interesting situation because one's past opinions will loom for a long time.
It seems everyone wants and has an opinion. You are either for us or against us.

I've hiked the West Coast Trail a few times. I found April was the best time for a trek, although nowadays there is an official season which starts in May with a registration fee. In the spring nobody else was on it, all the human refuse had been washed away and the trails were fresh and more challenging from the winter storms. Paradise.

Aki, my partner was part of the change camping in some of B.C's old growth forests standing infront of D9 Cat bulldozers. As for the "Great Bear Rainforest", it is an area difficult to log which was designated 'protected' after decades of countless demonstrations in countless valleys in B.C. held by people trying to stop big lumber companies from felling ancient trees. A purely political maneuvre, but I suppose we have to take what we can get. That is just my opinion.

Scott

 

[TheGreenMan]

I agree Shinken, opinions are second rate - it is what a person does that is important.
Expressing opinions on the internet is an interesting situation because one's past opinions will loom for a long time.
It seems everyone wants and has an opinion. You are either for us or against us...That is just my opinion. ...

That’s a gross over-simplification…in my opinion…just another example of people seeking out a confirmation of their own viewpoint. The real challenge is finding the truth in opinions held by those who hold differing opinions from ourselves…

Best regards,
Paul

 

[Shinken]

That’s a gross over-simplification…in my opinion…just another example of people seeking out a confirmation of their own viewpoint. The real challenge is finding the truth in opinions held by those who hold differing opinions from ourselves…

and for that to happen we must be open to being wrong (and admit we are wrong)

Admitting we are wrong and at that often wrong is a very big problem that man has, we went to the moon and said it was a giant leap for mankind. How is it? has it created peace?

Everyone accepts it as a great speech? why is it? or is it?

What i am trying to say is, an opinion based on the desire to make others have the same opinion as you is wrong. There should be a flexible opinion with the desire to gain the truth for the benefit of both party's

 

[TheGreenMan]

and for that to happen we must be open to being wrong (and admit we are wrong)

Admitting we are wrong and at that often wrong is a very big problem that man has, we went to the moon and said it was a giant leap for mankind. How is it? has it created peace?

Everyone accepts it as a great speech? why is it? or is it?

What i am trying to say is, an opinion based on the desire to make others have the same opinion as you is wrong. There should be a flexible opinion with the desire to gain the truth for the benefit of both party's

I agree entirely with everything you say here, Shinken.

On the matter of the Moon landings, if we leave aside the whole American/Soviet one-up-manship, thing (not easy to do, as that may well have been a prime motivator for those ventures). It may be considered as a ‘giant leap’ in Man’s technological progress to step onto the surface of the Moon (not bad for a thing that originally crawled out of some pond scum, if the Darwinists are correct), and it was, I’m pretty sure, a major achievement for the man in question. But I don’t think it was ever meant to be an event that would bring about ‘world peace’.

The current space missions involving the International Space Station are a more hopeful example, in the sense that there is a good deal of international cooperation that makes it all possible.

I hope that it doesn’t, in the long-term, become little more than an optimistic gesture, although if it was just that, then that in itself would be some expression of Man’s hope, and possible need, for a better world, and if one wants to avoid being left with the rather hollow feeling that life is nothing more than mere survival, and that this is all any of us can hope for, expect, or aspire to.

Best regards,
Paul.

 

[Shinken]

Hi Buddy,

I am slightly worried that our only hope is to find something in space? How is technology going to improve us as a race? no matter how technologically advanced we get there will still be murders and rapes. We have become more techno in this county yet crime has gone up in the last 60 years by a lot.

By belief is that we have turned from god and turned to technology. People say religion causes wars so we turn our back on the Lord and turn to technology and yet we are still murder's and rapists. Man is bad and God is good, if we rely on ourselves we will always be murder's and rapists that is proven by just observing humanity.

Love is patient, Love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. it always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

1 Corinthians chapter 13 verses 4 to 8

Beautiful words not from Man but from God. Love to science is a chemical.

 

[malente]

Uh oh...

I'd like to try a little preaching meself, never hurt no-one, he?

Hmmm,

Come to think of it, better let the experts of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster do it...

:AR15firin



May The Schwartz be with you!

Mike

Hi Buddy,

I am slightly worried that our only hope is to find something in space? How is technology going to improve us as a race? no matter how technologically advanced we get there will still be murders and rapes. We have become more techno in this county yet crime has gone up in the last 60 years by a lot.

By belief is that we have turned from god and turned to technology. People say religion causes wars so we turn our back on the Lord and turn to technology and yet we are still murder's and rapists. Man is bad and God is good, if we rely on ourselves we will always be murder's and rapists that is proven by just observing humanity.

Love is patient, Love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. it always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

1 Corinthians chapter 13 verses 4 to 8

Beautiful words not from Man but from God. Love to science is a chemical.

 

[Shinken]

Interesting link, looks like when i said man is bad i was right

 

[malente]

Cheers Cariboo!

I've been on the WCT at the beginning of May '05, we were one of the first groups after the park opened. It's a fantastic, wild place.

As far as I know, there was a huge National Park created in '06? I try to follow the activities of the Raincoast Conservation Foundation.

I'd love to do the WCT again in early spring before the season, but I dunno if that will happen any time soon

Mike

I've hiked the West Coast Trail a few times. I found April was the best time for a trek, although nowadays there is an official season which starts in May with a registration fee. In the spring nobody else was on it, all the human refuse had been washed away and the trails were fresh and more challenging from the winter storms. Paradise.

Aki, my partner was part of the change camping in some of B.C's old growth forests standing infront of D9 Cat bulldozers. As for the "Great Bear Rainforest", it is an area difficult to log which was designated 'protected' after decades of countless demonstrations in countless valleys in B.C. held by people trying to stop big lumber companies from felling ancient trees. A purely political maneuvre, but I suppose we have to take what we can get. That is just my opinion.

Scott