Best Cure for A Broken Heart?

Stevie777

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I would look into whether you actually have depression before you ask the doctor to prescribe anti depressants. Could just as easily be PTSD from way back that's never been addressed. Ask to speak with a psychiatrist/counsellor before just taking a prescription from the Doc.

Might take you a while to open up to a stranger, but that's no big deal for a good Counsellor. They know these things take time and will let you talk and open up on YOUR own time/terms. Maybe help get to the root of your problem?
 

Harvestman

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I would look into whether you actually have depression before you ask the doctor to prescribe anti depressants. Could just as easily be PTSD from way back that's never been addressed. Ask to speak with a psychiatrist/counsellor before just taking a prescription from the Doc.

Might take you a while to open up to a stranger, but that's no big deal for a good Counsellor. They know these things take time and will let you talk and open up on YOUR own time/terms. Maybe help get to the root of your problem?

Good advice all round.
 

Dave

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Thats a good cartoon. :jacked: [and as this is a bit of a pour your heart out thread........]

I know a number of fellow patients, with my disease, who can appear perfectly normal, then its like they've fallen off a cliff.
And a lot of them complain of family members not getting it.
Even Senior Nurses with it, complain about their husbands not understanding, just how ill, and utterly exhausted they feel, or when the brain fog is so bad, they cant do anything, or concentrate on anything, or their memory is like a sieve. All very common symptoms. Zombified I call it. Struggling.

So in our cases, People actually do treat serious physical illness, like it doesnt exist. And the healthcare professionals are some of the guiltiest parties. Its soul destroying when the very specialists whom are supposed to be helping you, show a complete lack of acknowledgement.
[A pulmonary specialist is not a sarcoid specialist, and if the tumours, or granulomas are in your lungs, you go see the pulmonary guy, yet theres over a 70% chance they are in other organs. Ive met people, where it spread to their heart and they died. Or their brain, neurosarc and they went blind.]

And the conclusions they draw, based upon the way they assess you, are completely ridiculous. You wouldnt believe how its run.

[For instance, if you are diagnosed with pulmonary Sarcoidosis, they tell you that the majority of people get better within months or years, and then a small percentage get the chronic condition. And that your pulmonary physician will monitor you for a year. Now when I was first diagnosed, I read of a load of people, everyone basically, with the disease, on the Sarcoid website, saying, at the end of the year they felt no better at all, and the physician basically says, right youre cured goodbye!
To your complete shock.
I couldnt believe that, but mine did exactly the same thing with me. Yet when you look at the european clinical studies, no-one gets better. If you meet and talk to people with the rare disease no-one is better than when they first got it. NO-ONE. And yet, the NHS show 90% of them as being cured, when they are nothing of the sort. It must skew the figures massively. Completely ridiculous. Most patients, by now totally fed up, then go to the only Sarcoid specialist hospital in the country, the Royal Brompton, in South Kensington, to see the leading expert Professor wells and his registrars. And they understand the disease in-numerably better than the pulmonary specialists all over the country. So at least you get some empathy there. Feel better understood. And that kind of boost is better than any medicine. Acknowledgement, of your condition. The system is designed to get you in and kick you out as quickly as possible, and label you as cured, when nobody is. It is incurable. All they can do is give you steroids, which suppress your immune system to the extent, that the inflammation around the tumours in your lungs goes down enough for you to be able to breath. It dosnt do anything to cure the tumours themselves. Its a complete joke. And people are left depressed and in limbo. You type Sarcoidosis into google and it'll tell you large numbers of people are cured. Its a lie based on false assessments!
Just be glad youve got your health, cause when that goes everything goes with it. Your house, business, woman etc.....Your just stuck in Limbo with no answers. And the very physicians assigned to help you, are the ones who put the boot in. So you just give up completely on your doctors.
Rant over. Glad I got that off my chest, [pun intended!]

Without the handful of drugs i take every day, I'd be off to A&E a lot more.

All I wanna do now is travel a bit more while I still can. And hope to hell my 76 year old ill parents dont get much worse, or I'll really be screwed trying to look after them as well.

Cest La Vie! :rolleyes:
 
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mrmike

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Its all making me think.
Which may be the issue in itself.
There's nothing wrong with thinking about these things, just realise that you will probably come up with one of two types of answer (if any at all)

a. The answer that you want to hear, that may not be right

b. The right answer that you may not want to hear

Or maybe nothing... (I did a lot of wine-induced thinking about my situation this weekend and got nothing useful)

Certainly consider talking to your gp about how you are feeling. If you arent keen on drugs, tell them, there are other options available that a good gp should consider too.

If you really are sure that your relationship has come to the end of the road then you would be right not to force it to continue. To do so would make you both miserable. And as you have made clear, you still care for her. This hurt will be short term in comparison.

I hope this makes some sort of sense, its been a long day already

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dewi

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TD... read what you posted up and I've read it again and again. Hope I'm not stepping over the line here, but it seems to me that you have a partner who is as much a mate as she is a partner.

Do you think she would be willing to be your mate, a mate you share a house with and who helps to get to the bottom of what is making you feel hollow and empty?

From what you've written, the problem with you leaving is it will do your head in completely. Your own feelings of guilt over your responsibility to make someone else happy is going to eat away at you in the short term, and as that begins to fade, no doubt you'll convince yourself that you're broken... and your own feeling of self-worth at that point will stop you from forming a bond with anyone else.

May sounds like gobbledy-gook... and it may well be... but if you stay, what are the pressures on you? Could you not make use of the friendship from someone who seems to want to help you? The argument that it will be easier for her in the long run is all very well, but does she get a say in it? Maybe she is willing to forgo a traditional relationship with you just to make sure you get through this and come out the other side happy.

Just as you want her to be happy, she probably hopes the same for you... and as mates, you might be able to achieve that.
 

oldtimer

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TD... read what you posted up and I've read it again and again. Hope I'm not stepping over the line here, but it seems to me that you have a partner who is as much a mate as she is a partner.

Do you think she would be willing to be your mate, a mate you share a house with and who helps to get to the bottom of what is making you feel hollow and empty?

From what you've written, the problem with you leaving is it will do your head in completely. Your own feelings of guilt over your responsibility to make someone else happy is going to eat away at you in the short term, and as that begins to fade, no doubt you'll convince yourself that you're broken... and your own feeling of self-worth at that point will stop you from forming a bond with anyone else.

May sounds like gobbledy-gook... and it may well be... but if you stay, what are the pressures on you? Could you not make use of the friendship from someone who seems to want to help you? The argument that it will be easier for her in the long run is all very well, but does she get a say in it? Maybe she is willing to forgo a traditional relationship with you just to make sure you get through this and come out the other side happy.

Just as you want her to be happy, she probably hopes the same for you... and as mates, you might be able to achieve that.

This strikes me as a really helpful and wise suggestion.

It reminds me that when I was in my mid forties I had a similar experience to yours. Work stress was getting to me, our relationship was strained, I was drinking too much and life seemed to be going in the wrong direction. All I really wanted to do was run away into the wilderness: not really a practical solution.

Credit is due to my wife who put up with me and did not throw me out. We are now in our 70's, have been married for 54 years and are happier than we have ever been. We reflect often on the mistake we nearly made and what might have been, particularly when we se old friends who did split now living a lonely old age.
 

TeeDee

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TD... read what you posted up and I've read it again and again. Hope I'm not stepping over the line here, but it seems to me that you have a partner who is as much a mate as she is a partner..


She is..

Which is WHY this hurts so dreadfully.

We spoke in person yesterday by accident. She was so calm and supportive , kept telling me I was a good person and I really don't feel anything like that in truth.

Her last words to me as he left the house were ," I love you....." a statement. Not begging. Not hateful. Even through this she is a far better person than I can or will ever be.
 

mrcharly

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Hmm, you sound to have a very good relationship there, tbh.

You've said you feel 'hollow'. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
I think just about everyone hits an age where they suddenly think "Crap, I'm middle-aged, is this all there is?" and start feeling a bit despairing about everything.
 

Mozzi

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Another spin on it, and Im no sure how much it will help....

I'm 22. But I have a lot of experience of the darker lonelier side of life, indeed I might even say I'm so accustomed to it, that I don't seek out a happier life simply because the concept of it is so alien to me.

What I can say, is you will never end up like this, you HAVE experienced happiness, you ARE capable of living a happy life, and having that potential, is a ver very lucky thing. You've been loved and you have loved, You've smiled and made others smile. and for a while at least, you got to share your life and build one with someone who was very special to you. So I will tell you you have absolutely, emphatically no reason or right to believe it won't happen again. Indeed how you've lived your life gives you the right to have confidence that happiness is accessible to you. Some peoples minds never let this happen.

Don't get me wrong, you may not experience the happiness you had until the moments before your life ends, life doesn't come scripted, but at the same time ten years from now you could be happier than you've ever been. the luck is totally out of your control. but the ability to capitalise on it is totally within your life skill set.

Best of luck mucker, I can be found on the sussex waterways fishing if you need a chat. only a PM away.

Nick
 

TeeDee

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Hmm, you sound to have a very good relationship there, tbh.

You've said you feel 'hollow'. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
I think just about everyone hits an age where they suddenly think "Crap, I'm middle-aged, is this all there is?" and start feeling a bit despairing about everything.

42 in Feb.
 

mrcharly

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42 is a very normal age to hit that point. 'middle-aged crisis' is said as a kind of joke, but for many people it really is a crisis.

I hope you can find a way through this to peace and satisfaction.
 

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