8.9 earthquake in asia...
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I agree, even though very tragic, at the same time I find the sequence of events as well as the prolonged effects to be facinating. For instance, since the smooth rotation of the Earth is determined by the inner core (magma), what effect will the wobbling have on the magma? Will the slight sloshing of the liquid rock increase, causing a greater wobbling of the Earth, causing a continued slowing of the rotation, which may be having it's own affect on the birds migration patterns etc., as well as causing even greater sloshing and wobbling of the Earth and on and on until as one ancient story says, "The Earth Mother will wobble and shake until North becomes South and East becomes West."
Plus, I've had thoughts about super volcanos and how a sloshing of the magma core might upset a delicate balance that has kept them dormant for a heck of a long time. I mean, everything on the planet is related in one way or another to everything else and a very slight change in one part of the system can create even more drastic changes in another part of the system.
Thinking about all of this is facinating, but at the same time, scares the living H E double hockey sticks right outta me sometimes.
Plus, I've had thoughts about super volcanos and how a sloshing of the magma core might upset a delicate balance that has kept them dormant for a heck of a long time. I mean, everything on the planet is related in one way or another to everything else and a very slight change in one part of the system can create even more drastic changes in another part of the system.
Thinking about all of this is facinating, but at the same time, scares the living H E double hockey sticks right outta me sometimes.
bambodoggy
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It is all very interesting but I don't think it'll make that much differance to the world in regards to geology and climate....it's not the biggest earthquake we've ever had after all.
What was far more interesting for me was some sketchy news stories coming out of Sri Lanka, India and a few other places.
The rescue teams have reported that there were virtually no wild animals among the dead....and wildlife rangers, conservationists etc have said the same....it seems our animal cousins had some sort of warning/intuition about this and all moved inland to avoid the great waves.
Now most of us will know that animals can sense earthquakes and can in fact be quite useful for predicting them in the last stages before it blows but how did they know to move inland as far as they could in a place as far away from the Epi Centre as Sri Lanka and India? ? ?
Brings the expression "Dumb Animal" into proper perspective doesn't it...
There's a great book out there called "Supernature", which tries to explain these things to us....it's very interesting and well worth a read...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...0860/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-8091843-3428434
It's very sad for all the people involved in this event and I can't help asking why Man is so far removed that he cannot notice that which the wild animals clearly understood and acted on.
What was far more interesting for me was some sketchy news stories coming out of Sri Lanka, India and a few other places.
The rescue teams have reported that there were virtually no wild animals among the dead....and wildlife rangers, conservationists etc have said the same....it seems our animal cousins had some sort of warning/intuition about this and all moved inland to avoid the great waves.
Now most of us will know that animals can sense earthquakes and can in fact be quite useful for predicting them in the last stages before it blows but how did they know to move inland as far as they could in a place as far away from the Epi Centre as Sri Lanka and India? ? ?
Brings the expression "Dumb Animal" into proper perspective doesn't it...
There's a great book out there called "Supernature", which tries to explain these things to us....it's very interesting and well worth a read...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...0860/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-8091843-3428434
It's very sad for all the people involved in this event and I can't help asking why Man is so far removed that he cannot notice that which the wild animals clearly understood and acted on.
Surprisingly, no and not by quite some distance.
Depending on what set of figures you believe the Chinese quake of '76 killed between 250 and 750,000.
If you want to include things like influenza, the "record" is in the millions.
Depending on what set of figures you believe the Chinese quake of '76 killed between 250 and 750,000.
If you want to include things like influenza, the "record" is in the millions.
ChrisKavanaugh
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www.ubat.com.my/ Utan Baru is a marvelous jungle skills school in Malaysia. The majority of their staff left to help in search and rescue. I don't know how much, if any impact this disaster will have on their future operations. One of their projects is an orphaned elephant and it's care.
Well a billion raised worldwide...gives me some confidence in the world...
I saw an intersting Heaven&Earth show today, now an arch Bishop question the existence of God because of this, or so i heard...i found that very alarming. :?:
I saw an intersting Heaven&Earth show today, now an arch Bishop question the existence of God because of this, or so i heard...i found that very alarming. :?:
I may be being a tad cynical but I can't help feeling that if there weren't so many "western" tourists involved, and if the affected areas were all well away from the holiday playgrounds we'd be hearing a lot less from the media on this subject.
I was looking into "the figures" for previous disasters (I know, morbid) and discovered that a cyclone (which amongst other things developed a tsunami) killed 130 odd thousand in Bangladesh back in '91 and I don't remember the same level of coverage...
re bamdoggys point about animals sensing earthquakes,I was on holiday in rhodes when a small(very small) tremor hit the island.everyday we had seen lots of dogs goats,lizards and birds of prey on the way back from the beach,on the day of the tremor-it felt like someone very briefly shook the ground-they where noticably absent pior to the (very small) tremor.did anyone see the bbc online news about the cretin who emailed relatives of missing tourists that their relatives had died?perhaps at the next meet we could use him for archery practice?
I listened with interest to the news this morning when they were talking about crocodiles in the earthquake hit regions coming out from the creeks they normally inhabit, and wandering through the devastation making assertive passes at survivors, with several having to be beaten away. Is this because they're out to scavange...do crocodiles scavenge? Or would the tidal wave have displaced their normal food sources to such a degree that they're simply searching for a food source and can sense the enormity of death that has occured?? :?:
Crocs do the death roll in order to tear chunks of flesh off the body because they can't chew, just bite and swallow. To soften their kill up they will take a large animal and lodge it underwater and let it soften up a bit.
They will also eat carrion, saves them the risk of injury when killing something.
They will also eat carrion, saves them the risk of injury when killing something.
I saw on the news this morning a Sri Lankan (who's living in America somewhere) explaining that they (the victims) don't want to be spoonfed, but helped to get back on their feet again. To be given the tools of survival, rather than the fruits as it were.
Most admirable.
Most admirable.
From what I understand crocodiles will eat almost anything (including other crocodiles and carrion), effectively if they are big enough and fast enough to take and catch it, it's on the menu.
Not knowing the size of the ones that you are talking about I don't know how much of a threat they are to people as a whole, but I do know that both the Saltwater and Nile crocodiles are both considered to be a threat to humans in thier own enviroment (this is mainly due to thier size, they can handle prey the size of a man).
Crocodiles are quite incredible creatures and can go without food for quite a considerable time, but like any animal that feeds on carrion if there is an abundance the smell will lead them to it (waste not want not).
A "death roll" is normally a way of ripping of chunks of meat, croc's have a tendency to drown things and then when you are dead you will see them clamping on and using their tails to spin them in the water and rip of chunks of meat.
crocodiles also have the most amazing immune system, they can sustain injuries in water that would kill a human being and they heal up.
Cassius is the largest crocdile in captivity he is 19.5 feet long and is a salt water croc (made in Australia), when they caught him they found that he was missing one of his legs and the only thing that could of done that was another croc, but one that was larger than Cassius himself.
Not knowing the size of the ones that you are talking about I don't know how much of a threat they are to people as a whole, but I do know that both the Saltwater and Nile crocodiles are both considered to be a threat to humans in thier own enviroment (this is mainly due to thier size, they can handle prey the size of a man).
Crocodiles are quite incredible creatures and can go without food for quite a considerable time, but like any animal that feeds on carrion if there is an abundance the smell will lead them to it (waste not want not).
A "death roll" is normally a way of ripping of chunks of meat, croc's have a tendency to drown things and then when you are dead you will see them clamping on and using their tails to spin them in the water and rip of chunks of meat.
crocodiles also have the most amazing immune system, they can sustain injuries in water that would kill a human being and they heal up.
Cassius is the largest crocdile in captivity he is 19.5 feet long and is a salt water croc (made in Australia), when they caught him they found that he was missing one of his legs and the only thing that could of done that was another croc, but one that was larger than Cassius himself.
Since "the big wave" (tsunami) in Asia, over here in Holland there is a massive action to collect money for those in need.
Yesterday there was a national action: all dutch radio & televisionstations co-operated: for a reasonable price you could do your thing on the tv, were able to express your feelings as a company (and have a small commercial at the same time).
Normal people organised all sorts of things to collect money: children selling drawings, washing cars with the fire department (burning cars were allowed to go first
), etc. etc.
A major concert was given in Amsterdam (for free), a single mas made by artists (something like Band Aid in the eighties), all fees etc. raised with it are for Asia.
Results from december 27th untill last night: 112.144.000,- (over 112 million euros!!) :yikes: :super:
Yesterday there was a national action: all dutch radio & televisionstations co-operated: for a reasonable price you could do your thing on the tv, were able to express your feelings as a company (and have a small commercial at the same time).
Normal people organised all sorts of things to collect money: children selling drawings, washing cars with the fire department (burning cars were allowed to go first
), etc. etc.A major concert was given in Amsterdam (for free), a single mas made by artists (something like Band Aid in the eighties), all fees etc. raised with it are for Asia.
Results from december 27th untill last night: 112.144.000,- (over 112 million euros!!) :yikes: :super:
