I have often pondered, what are peoples thoughts on the pros/cons for army surplus equipment or civilian equipment? not the cost side of things because we all know most surplus stuff is cheaper... but the quality of equipment? For example, I have a web-tex bergen. I don't actually know what the diferences are between that and the real thing. And things like waterproofs, boots, cooking equipment and the like, what's your preference? Joe _______________ Confused as usual!