Down bag (v.cold weather.)

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Chris the Cat

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Jan 29, 2008
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On the hunt for my first down bag,rated down to about-15,-20 ( Have used Snug pak and Buffalo up 'till now,but looking to save weight and pack size for Arctic trips!)
Any tips from down bag users (especially cold weather!)
would be great.
Many thanks.
Chris.
 
Thanks Mike,what is your experience of them?
Good price ,are they up to the job?

I suggest you contact them - they're very helpful and friendly. I'm sure they'll give you honest advice (rather than a sales pitch) if you tell them it's for the Arctic. It's not good for their long term sales prospects if one of their customers perishes because they gave wrong advice!
;^)

Jim
 
If you plan to go to the arctic I suggest you buy a sleeping bag system that goes down to at least -30. Depending on which time of the year ofcourse, in winter it wouldn't be strange if it was -40 C.

I myself have the Alpkit SH 1000 and the SH 400. The SH 1000 goes down to -16. This winter in arctic Sweden I slept in it at around -18 and it was still very warm, I had no bivy bag, no inner liner, just 1 pair of light woolen underwear (around 100-200gr) and was sleeping in a small tent (about 5 degrees warmer then outside). Then with the SH400 inside the SH1000 I slept many nights at -30C and was very warm, I wouldn't be surprised if it would work comfortably down to -40C as I hadn't even closed the bags properly (too warm!). That for a total weight of 2700gr for the bags combined.

A great advantage is that I can use the SH400 in the summer as well. So with these two bags I need nothing else the whole year through. Although I take a nanok with syntethic filling on canoe trips in summer, as it's cheap and dries fast. Though the 17 day trip I just finished I had my sh1000 as it could get quite cold in the nights, it was north of Östersund, there was still snow lying besides the roads when we got there, winter ends in the beginning of May.


For a lighter system I suggest you buy the Pipedream 800 and 400.

If you only expect temperatures down to -25C you can easily use the PD800 or SH1000 together with a bivy bag (3-5 degrees extra), inner liner (3-5 extra) and some extra underwear (...). But the bivy and liner might weigh a kilo together as well...
 
Hi,

If I was in the UK I'd be inclined to take a look at the Sleeping bags made by PH Design.

http://www.phdesigns.co.uk/

Peter Hutchinson was connected with Mountain Equipment back in it's hay day. I used to have an old 'Redline' Bag by ME and it was excellent... The new PH Design stuff looks to be pretty good.

Currently for Alpine / Winter I use a Macpac Solstice which is a 4 season bag with a water resistant shell. It's plenty warm enough for me but I sleep hot. Macpac down bags are pretty good and popular here in NZ along with Fairydown.

For your quoted temps I'd say you'd need 5 season... Personally I'd avoid double bagging as they always end up twisted and a PITA to sort out in the morning.

Down is a good choice for Dry Cold ( high mountains and Arctic). When snowholing I use a Bivvy bag to keep any drips or spindrift off of the bag. Will you be sleeping in tents, or bivving...??

Cheers

John
 
Thanks John,I am usualy under a tarp and have had my synth. bags in a gortex bivi. I am ,however looking to drop some weight and pack size from my Sug-pak (Warm,but big and heavy!) I will have a look,thanks for the advice!!
Chris.
 

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