10,000 B.C. Reality Show

[Insel Affen]

I seriously wonder what criteria has to be met to get on one of these shows. I've narrowed it down to a few things, some i have mentioned here previously. Anyone knowledgeable about survival/Bushcraft and or being a cool customer under extreme pressure need not apply.

Yeah, but if they had got people who had any idea what to do, would it have made as good a program (therefore ratings) for all the non bushcrafty Sheeple? We would have found it interesting to see other techniques and it would have been a bit more true to its tenet of 'Can 18 20th century people survive in the Mesolithic period?'

 

[HFC]

So what would you do?
The way it fell apart so quickly suggests that there wasn't a skilled participant working under cover, or that if there was their knowledge was missing some essential, probably social/leadership, skills.

We've seen the calibre, character and capability of most of the "cast" now.

How might one have better influenced the outcome 2 weeks in to the "experiment" if embedded as a covert bushcrafter by the production team?

 

[Stevie777]

So what would you do?
The way it fell apart so quickly suggests that there wasn't a skilled participant working under cover, or that if there was their knowledge was missing some essential, probably social/leadership, skills.

We've seen the calibre, character and capability of most of the "cast" now.

How might one have better influenced the outcome 2 weeks in to the "experiment" if embedded as a covert bushcrafter by the production team?

100% of that deer would have been used. I would have spent a couple of hours knocking up a smoker for Jerky and smoked every last bit. The Lake would have been on my to do list for day 2. Fish traps would have been made ASAP, I certainly would not have waited 9 days to go have a look.

Ps, They have a Archer and a Small game Hunter in the camp...two weeks and they have caught or killed nothing other than a handful or Crayfish.. a Target archer does not a hunter make. We'll see.

 

[TallTom]

100% of that deer would have been used. I would have spent a couple of hours knocking up a smoker for Jerky and smoked every last bit. The Lake would have been on my to do list for day 2. Fish traps would have been made ASAP, I certainly would not have waited 9 days to go have a look.

Ps, They have a Archer and a Small game Hunter in the camp...two weeks and they have caught or killed nothing other than a handful or Crayfish.. a Target archer does not a hunter make. We'll see.

Archer should have shot the fish he said he kept seeing, and that ) lorry driver can barely string a sentence together so I doubt his trapping skills are much better.
It's such a shame that a good idea was executed so poorly.

 

[Stevie777]

Archer should have shot the fish he said he kept seeing, and that ) lorry driver can barely string a sentence together so I doubt his trapping skills are much better.
It's such a shame that a good idea was executed so poorly.

His Dead fall Boar trap was laughable. I dont believe he understands what he's up against.

 

[vestlenning]

A Mesolithic vegetarian?

Let's hear what a archaeologist has to say about eating in the good old days:

Debunking the paleo diet

 

[bobnewboy]

Archer should have shot the fish he said he kept seeing, and that ) lorry driver can barely string a sentence together so I doubt his trapping skills are much better.
It's such a shame that a good idea was executed so poorly.

Wouldnt even need to use the bow for the fish. If they could be easily seen, a spear would make more sense, could be effectively used by more people, and with less chance of losing an important and 'expensive' resource - flint tipped arrows.

 

[crosslandkelly]

Let's hear what a archaeologist has to say about eating in the good old days:

Debunking the paleo diet

Interesting, but they still supplemented their diet with meat.

 

[Nyayo]

Also for interest, a Choctaw's take on Native American vegetarianism:
http://www.ivu.org/history/native_americans.html

 

[Toddy]

Let's hear what a archaeologist has to say about eating in the good old days:

Debunking the paleo diet

That was a very interesting link and a good lecture to listen to. Prof Warinner makes a lot of sense

Thank you.
I liked the sugar cane analogy

cheers,
Toddy

 

[Stevie777]

Wouldnt even need to use the bow for the fish. If they could be easily seen, a spear would make more sense, could be effectively used by more people, and with less chance of losing an important and 'expensive' resource - flint tipped arrows.

easier just to use wood...three prong. I wonder what delights tonight's show has in store for us.

 

[Insel Affen]

There was something else bugging me about this. Throwing them I at the deep end was also unfair as they would not only have had previous generations there with experience, but also have known about the lake and had traps set on land and in the lake, they wouldn't have gone in cold.

Again, I think it has been a really badly executed program. Putting them into a group of say 5 experts would have been better as then you would have seen if they could have survived in a group rather than throwing them in at the deep end.

 

[crosslandkelly]

The programme would have been more honest, if it had been called "Survivors".

 

[david1]

anyone else notice the hose pipe for filling up water bottles

what surprised me the most was how much contraband was handed in... there must be a lack of hazel too they took that in with them as well

 

[Insel Affen]

Oh yes, that American bloke who is running it, is a complete PILLOCK! Even if he is an ex-Navy SeAL.

 

[Bishop]

The programme would have been more honest, if it had been called "Survivors".

Could not agree more..

Forget the experimental archeology fluff and just imagine it's a dozen tourists whose plane crashed and are waiting for madness or rescue as they squabble over the last of the inflight nibbles.

 

[Stevie777]

6 still hanging in there. is it just me or does anyone else believe JP might have a secret stash of food. he's the only one who doesn't appear to have lost weight.

Gotta take your hat off to them though, a couple look like they might drop dead any minute. Someone needs to sit them down with a "Wild Boar for dummies" book though. Last night could have ended in tears for ol JP...lol

 

[rik_uk3]

6 still hanging in there. is it just me or does anyone else believe JP might have a secret stash of food. he's the only one who doesn't appear to have lost weight.

Gotta take your hat off to them though, a couple look like they might drop dead any minute. Someone needs to sit them down with a "Wild Boar for dummies" book though. Last night could have ended in tears for ol JP...lol

He's saved his energy by sitting on his bum.

I watched the latest episode and to be honest IMHO they should have pulled the plug and taken them all home, those two blokes just ain't functioning right, from a medical point of view they should have stopped filming, packed up, put tail between legs and left. Its going to take time for them all to recover from this.

 

[Insel Affen]

He's saved his energy by sitting on his bum.

Aw! You beat me to it. I was going to say that the only reason he's lost no weight is because he's done SFA. I think if it were 10,000 BC, he would have a had a use, filling the stew pot as its contents.

Watching it last night, we finally saw that Klintbbloke admit they were lacking passed down knowledge and hunting/gathering techniques. That begs the question, why was this not done on the first place? They could have set out more traps and fishing stuff, it need not be complicated ones, as then the tribe could have improved on them. That way we would have seen them develop as hunters gatherers.

 

[Stevie777]

They probably did have training of some sort, fire lighting, flint napping, local knowledge on edible plants, wildlife etc. Though it seems like they all missed the "Boar can tear you a new one" class.