Newbie Question, what exactly is a "Bushcraft" knife?

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Camel

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Nov 5, 2012
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Ladies and Gents,

I've been looking at the style of Bushcraft knife, typified by the AW/RM type I am guessing, and trying to work out what makes it so special for Bushcraft. To be very clear, I am not disparaging the knife or design in any way, rather saying that in my limited understanding of Knifecraft in the bush beyond game prep and basic camping, I can't see what it would offer over say a Falkniven H1/F1 or heavy duty Mora/Hultfors style knife.

Some background:

I have a few knives for hunting and the outdoors, custom and off the peg.

For small deer, bunnies and other small game not far from home, I tend to use either a SS Mora Clipper/Companion ( http://www.moraofsweden.se/morakniv/companion-mg-50.0.201.2?group=prod_prod_grp-s1%2F41 ) or a Hultafors Carbon ( http://www.hultafors.com/uk/products/cutting/knives/craftsmans-knives/heavy-duty-knife-gk/.

These are good because not being too deep in the blade they can get around small animal body cavities with more dexterity than heavier knives.

They take decent edges, especially the carbon steel variants, but dull relatively quickly. Say 2-3 Muntjac, 1-2 Roe or a Fallow buck or Red deer as I prefer a very sharp knife for gralloching. I am sharpening challenged so I tend to sharpen at home with the Lansky and take more knives with me into the field in case I need them.

When I'm further way from home, say a week in Scotland I will take my Custom hunting knife which is made of CPM 154 Stainless.

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I have had a convex edge put on this and with the better steel, this will do half a dozen of more beasts before it needs sharpening. Frequently a session on the strop with some "Smurf poo" is all that's needed to put the edge back on, I have a small MDF backed strop that I take with me. This is flat ground knife of 80mm length and 28mm depth which is perfect for gutting, skinning and prep of deer and boar.




For the same sort of trips but dealing with bigger animals (Larger than Red deer) I will take a Russian made knife Of around 125 mm made from some sort of Russian equivalent to the CPM 154 steel, I like to tell the credulous that it's made from Tank barrel steel...:D

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This is a scandi ground clip point with a secondary edge to give a kind of "stepped" convex edge effect. This will and has reduced a moose to a pile of meat without the need for sharpening.

I have more recently started to combine more of my hunting with bushcraft; two weeks camping in the Australian Outback, a week living out of a rough log cabin in Russian Karelia etc. and have been enjoying the camping almost as much as the hunting. In fact they mesh rather wonderfully to give an experience that is greater than their sum.

Am I missing a "Bushcraft" knife in my life for these activities is my question, what does a bushcraft knife do that my existing knives don't?

Again, this is not meant to be a thread for bashing one design or another, rather I would beg the indulgence of the experience of the membership in what I'm missing.

With thanks,

C
 

jacko1066

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May 22, 2011
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In my very limited experience a bushcraft knife is whatever knife you like and can use!!
As long as its sharp, fit for purpose and for fills your needs it doesn't matter what knife it is.

I have a dajo survivor knife that I use all the time. It's nothing like the RM knife or a mora but I class it as my bushcraft knife.

It's mainly down to personnel choice fella.
Hope this helps
Steve


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Redwall

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Apr 12, 2011
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I guess the definition that covers most £100+ Woodlore/Ray Mears type knives that are so popular is as follows:

3mm+ thick carbon steel blade
Scandi single bevel edge
Full tang

Then they usually come with wooden handles and leather sheaths, a matter of personal preference and some aesthetic value I feel. The big difference between these and the carbon Moras is the durability and strength of that thicker steel and full tang as well as handle shape. The scandi grind is awesome for woodworking tasks.

I guess that is the "Bushcraft Knife" that is most popular over here, although obviously different people have different levels of success with a variety of blades.
 

jiffi

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Jun 24, 2010
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I have about 100-120 knives at any one time and as far as I can see it dosnt really matter which one you use as long as you learn how to use it properly for each job you need it for!
 

Toddy

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I have about 100-120 knives at any one time and as far as I can see it dosnt really matter which one you use as long as you learn how to use it properly for each job you need it for!

Well said that man :D

M

The classic 'bushcraft' knife is robust enough not to snap when used to wedge, kedge, lever or chop, yet holds an edge sharp enough to shave with, or use as a craft knife. Is safe for splitting and battoning timber and will still split plant stems and roots neatly.

It's basically just a good all round tool.

For skinning, gutting, etc., a wee fine, sharp knife the length of my forefinger and a longer fine one for boning out, pretty much does it all. The bushcraft knife will do all that too, just not quite the ideal for the job; a well honed tip though takes care of most of it very well indeed.
Just needs practice. You can do it all with a wee bit of flint, surprisingly effective, just mind your fingers, all of the edges are inclined to be sharp.

Having said all that though, two of the finest proponents of the bushcrafting art, who truly make it their life, simply use Moras :)

Oh and six :D


cheers,
Toddy
 
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Camel

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Nov 5, 2012
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London
Thank you for your replies.

I have a cleared idea of what is meant when talking about a "Bushcraft knife" now.

Would it be fair to say I need a decent axe and folding saw before I need a dedicated bushcraft knife?
 

Wayland

Hárbarðr
Thank you for your replies.

I have a cleared idea of what is meant when talking about a "Bushcraft knife" now.

Would it be fair to say I need a decent axe and folding saw before I need a dedicated bushcraft knife?

Make that a folding saw and then an axe.

Priority according to useage. You'll use a saw much more than an axe if you're anything like me.
 

Camel

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Nov 5, 2012
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That's very true, I use a pound-shop folding saw for building hides for pigeon shooting. I had been nursing vague fantasies about using a parang or small axe for branch gathering but as you say a saw is just as easy.

I try and apply the principle of buy quality, buy once to all my stuff.

Can you recommend a good quality folding saw please?
 

The Big Lebowski

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Aug 11, 2010
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Silky F180, Bahco Laplander. There's not much between both other than price and the Silky's cleaner cut on green wood.
 
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Harvestman

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Whilst we all like new kit, the bottom line is that if it does what you want it to do, and you are comfortable with it, then it is the right tool for the job so far as you are concerned.

This applies to knives, stoves, sleep systems, tarps, clothing, anything.
 

Camel

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Nov 5, 2012
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London
Whilst we all like new kit, the bottom line is that if it does what you want it to do, and you are comfortable with it, then it is the right tool for the job so far as you are concerned.

This applies to knives, stoves, sleep systems, tarps, clothing, anything.

That's just it Harvesterman, I'm not sure I do know what I will want it to do.

I know what I want in a hunting knife for the UK for example; I want it at least 3, better 4" long in case I need to stick or bleed a beast. I want it to be about an inch in depth so as to be handy in the pelvic cavity. I want about a 20-25 degree per side edge so it can rip cartridge if need be. I want a sheath with a washable, impermeable lining on a drop loop. I want a moderately tapered full length tang and some distal taper for balance with a good grippy, impermeable handle.

I'm am inexperienced in bushcraft however and so wasn't at all sure if the same features would serve for a more general camping knife.

I think that as gain more experience I will have a better idea but was looking for a short cut to some of that knowledge from you guys. :D

I think a general camp knife should be a bit longer than 3-4" based on my experience so far for example.

Thanks for all the help again ladies and gents.
 

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