Would you like this Red???

[michiel]

I know how Red thinks about convex grinds. In certain ways I agree with him. BUT: Bark River Knife and Tool made an upscaled version of the Aurora, the Nebula. It's got a scandi convex grind! It's 12C27 instead of the A2 used on the Aurora.

here it is:

What do you guys think of this knife?

Michiel

 

[Simon E]

Looks like it will be too thick to use as a half depth convex . I would say a full flat with a convex edge would perform betterand be cheaper to make. I know Mike knows his stuff, but I can't help think he is hoping to cash in on the Brit bushcraft scene with this one.


I like BRKT for the cost, but this one doesnt do anything for me.

 

[British Red]

Michiel,

Actually, yes I do. I quite liked the Aurora - actually I complimented Mike on the design. Its a long story. He asked for views on the early prototype. I said - "lovely lines - god awful grind, any chance of one in Scandy?"

He spat his coffee over the keyboard.

It went down hill from there

It would be fair to admit that Mike and I don't see "eye to eye" on grinds. To be honest though, what works, works where I'm concerned. If people love them or loathe them, fair play.

If someone asks for opinions, I'll offer mine - I've tried numerous convex grinds and don't like them on anything but my axes. I don't mind a tiny degree of convexing caused by stropping, but the degree contained on the F1s or even the Northstar (two truly poor knives IMHO) then no.

What do I like about that knife? The lines - the fine point for drilling. The longer than average handle. I'd need to handle one and feel the dimensions to be sure (length, thickness, contour etc.)

On the face of it, it may be a little long, but its a good looking knife. If he is looking to make a knife based around European Bushcrafting - good on him says I!

Edit to say

It is interesting though. I own several axes that can't be improved on. I own the perfect axe carry system. I own the perfect knife sheath. I own the perfect coat (nearly - the final one is completed in design). I own many bits of kit that are spot on in my mind. I can see the perfect knife, but no-one has built it yet

Red

 

[Xunil]

...It is interesting though. I own several axes that can't be improved on. I own the perfect axe carry system. I own the perfect knife sheath. I own the perfect coat (nearly - the final one is completed in design). I own many bits of kit that are spot on in my mind. I can see the perfect knife, but no-one has built it yet

Red

I'm not spoiling here, but once again this is all a purely personal preference thing.

Your perfect axes "that can't be improved on" very obviously suit you. Or perhaps you them. Perhaps they were heavily modified from their original state, or carefully made to specific designs after lots and lots of refinement. Others among us may or may not be as comfortable using or maintaining them.

Ditto to your knife sheath.

What suits one rarely suits another as well.

Invariably my custom stuff, made by me for me, will rarely suit someone else as well, unless they happen to be 6 foot 4, 210 pounds with a similar way of using and looking after their tools.

This is a serious problem with anything factory or otherwise mass produced.

Compromises have to be made to try and cater to the many, rather than make to particularly suit a small number very well at the expense of the rest of us.

My own take on the knife is it looks from the picture like the grip starts to angle down at the front slightly then the blade does the opposite. It appears that a potentially good profile has been bent in the middle to point slightly the wrong way.

If it was, say, around 3mm or so thick the grind might work. On BRKT's usual 5 or 6mm I'd say it's a cold chisel of a knife, made to approximate the current trend here in the UK.

And that's from a firm fan of BRKT knives.

 

[British Red]

I'm not spoiling here, but once again this is all a purely personal preference thing.

Of course it is personal Xunil, I suspect thats why michiel called it "Would you like this Red?"

I think michiel and Simon know well my utter distaste for the convex grind and the "discussions" I have had with a number of knife designers are....infamous? Probably notorious is a better word. Still all power to them for asking people what they do (and don't) like about their product ranges. I'll continue to give an opinion (when asked)

Red

 

[michiel]

Red, you could always mod this knife in a scandi grind. I read the topic about making a scandi F1. I saw this knife and I thought you might like it because you can make a scandi grind out of it.

Just an idea...

 

[Shinken]

I'll continue to give an opinion (when asked)

Ask me ask me!